Maybe I should've included a Pothole to Sarcasm Mode or Hypocritical Humor?
edited 3rd Apr '11 6:42:49 PM by Stormtroper
And that's how I ended up in the wardrobe. It Just Bugs Me!According to the wiki article, information death is believed to occur a few hours after clinical death at room temperature
, but can occur more rapidly if there's no blood flow to the brain during life support, leading to pre-mortem decomposition, or if the person suffers from a degenerative brain disease prior to death. This isn't my field though, and afraid I don't really know much more than that. People have been revived well after clinical death without brain damage, but people sometimes suffer permanent brain damage after a few minutes without oxygen, and I don't know what the underlying mechanisms are that cause this.
If they have the power and obligation to bring one back and don't it's tantamount to murder I guess? But I don't think we should be establishing obligation to resurrection anytime soon. Or, like, ever.
So, what, we have Cyronic devices in ER rooms as part of health care?
edited 3rd Apr '11 7:01:48 PM by TheyCallMeTomu
Ideally if you're signed up up for cryonics and are put in critical condition for whatever reason, they'll put some people on standby so they can start applying preliminary measures as soon as clinical death occurs. Under less ideal circumstances, well... you have a few hours, tops, they'll do what they can.
...eventually, we will reach a maximum entropy state where nobody has their own socks or underwear, or knows who to ask to get them back.It took like, two hours from the time of my dad's announced death just to get a Hospice nurse out here. I mean, if someone finds you, you're taken to the ER, and then lifesaving mechanisms in the ER aren't functional, sure. But I'm really skeptical that "a few hours" is really a long time.
Actually, that's a really good question. Of people that die, what percentage of them are pronounced dead within a few hours of their collapse? What percentage of people die in Hospital Emergency rooms, basically? Hmmm...
Merely being inside physics does not make a theory significantly more probable than one outside it, if we have no evidence for either.
I could offer the theory that Muammar Qaddafi is going to take over the world by next week, but it doesn't make it that much more probable than my other theory that Qaddafi will ascend bodily into heaven. Certainly it is more probable, but saying only that is like claiming that an atom is large because it's larger than a proton.
Since we're talking about the chances of them happening, this is irrelevant.
What, you mean before or after the Singularity? There is no such thing as a technological Singularity, because the idea of a Singularity treats "the future" as a point in time, rather than as a span that will probably be at least as long as if not longer than "the past".
Yes, maybe we invent intelligent AI in the future. Or maybe we invent giant mosquitobots. We can say with a reasonable degree of certainty we'll invent things, and that they will improve our lives in all the ways technology has so far done in the past, but we can't say what we'll invent past a span of about 10 years max.
Your last statement does not follow from your first one.
Because we've never resurrected anyone, we don't know if freezing people actually helps us do that, especially freezing people in a way that damages their cells, and especially especially in the period between legal and information death, where a future ressurector, even if they overcame the problem of the ice, would only have a minute or so to cure whatever killed you in the first place.
Also, about something you said earlier in your post: Just because an idea wasn't selected randomly doesn't make it probable either. As I've already said, ice causes known cellular damage that would pretty certainly make it impossible to recover your brain. Cryonics seems so far to be based mainly on the illusion that just because your body doesn't rot, it must be fine. Maybe it'll get better eventually, but until someone at least resurrects a rat or something I'm not buying it.
Aww, that's too bad. I can kinda guess what it was for though.
edited 3rd Apr '11 7:22:23 PM by BlackHumor
He just sent me a PM; how could he be banned?
Or was he banned from Less Wrong?
@On the topic of cryonics: cryonics offer a possibility - a glimmer of hope - for eluding death. That alone is nice.
Does this go against his beliefs? No, I do not believe such. You can justify choosing an ideal if it is even a little bit more likely than something else.
edited 3rd Apr '11 7:28:43 PM by TheMightyAnonym
Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! ~ GODHe had already been banned as Raw Power, but, on-topic conversations blablabla
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I'd like to know what is going on, myself.
edited 3rd Apr '11 7:53:21 PM by TheMightyAnonym
Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! ~ GOD

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edited 3rd Apr '11 6:41:42 PM by ForoneAndWon