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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11701: Jun 1st 2019 at 11:40:58 AM

Doing random favours for the people of Torna that of course are ultimately pointless because in five minutes the entire place is gonna explode

Had a laugh at the one that has you bring that guy's kids to him in Aletta and he's all 'don't worry you'll be safe now'

Edited by asterism on Jun 1st 2019 at 6:41:50 PM

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11702: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:07:46 PM

Is A Moment of Eternity the lyrical version of The Beginning of Our Memory?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#11703: Jun 1st 2019 at 1:31:17 PM

Yep.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#11704: Jun 1st 2019 at 6:24:09 PM

It is honestly kind of hilarious how many of the problems in the main game if wouldn't have happened if Addam had just swung by Indol after sealing Mythra and shanked Amalthus like the bastard deserved.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#11705: Jun 1st 2019 at 6:40:41 PM

I mean, did Addam not know what he (Amalthus) was doing?

I got the impression Pyra didn't seem to know how evil he was when she talked with him in Indol, but if they were aware he had not only gone full asshole, but had been one for a long time, then yeah. Addam fucked up badly by not nipping that issue in the bud.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11706: Jun 1st 2019 at 8:32:04 PM

Alvis: You'll find that we are in this predicament because somebody pushed a certain button.

Malos: "Somebody" means daddy!

Klaus: Shut it, T-poser. It was just a button!

Meanwhile, in different universe.

Elma: Hello? Is this thing on? Am I all alone?

Edited by RAlexa21th on Jun 1st 2019 at 8:43:30 AM

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11707: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:35:05 PM

Oh man, imagine the first game if it was Malos or Mythra who got zapped into the new universe instead of Alvis

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11708: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:43:46 PM

They are not as calculating as Alvis, and Alvis is more resistant to Zanza's personality despite Zanza "bonding" with him.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#11709: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:49:30 PM

Indeed. Alvis might be the strongest of the three. Malos seems like he was entirely shaped by Amalthus' misanthropy, while Mythra...well I can't cay much about Mythra's bond with Addam because I haven't done Torna yet, but from what I understand, as close as they were, there was always a bit of a rift due to Addam slightly fearing her power which prevented him from pulling her back when she triple nuked three Titans.

In contrast, Alvis seemed to have enough of a will and personality of his own that he flat out rebelled against Zanza, who wouldn't have just been his driver by the rules of XBC2 if XBC1 had had drivers, but was actually his creator, which you'd expect to really cement some loyalty.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jun 1st 2019 at 10:50:32 AM

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11710: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:53:50 PM

Technically Alvis has two "Drivers," Zanza and Meyneth. He is Shulk's "Blade" because Shulk is Zanza's vessel, while using Shulk for his own agenda, although a more benevolent agenda than Pyra's and Zanza's. Philosophically he sides with Meyneth. It is unclear which "Driver" exerts more influence on Alvis, but I imagine it's Zanza.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#11711: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:17:08 PM

I'm honestly not sure Alvis is specifically Ontos. I got the impression he's more like the master program all the cores were linked up with.

For one thing, he's way, way more powerful than Malos or Mythra are, being a virtually-omnipotent Top God as far as I can tell. And he seems much more aware of his own mechanical nature, even recalling the initial world-rending experiment.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11712: Jun 1st 2019 at 10:19:46 PM

Ontos or not, he stills functions like a Blade, and has a father/son relationship with Klaus.

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#11713: Jun 2nd 2019 at 3:06:06 AM

Do we ever find out what happened to Galea in the wolrd of Alrest, by the way ? don't seem to recall anything about her.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#11714: Jun 2nd 2019 at 3:56:54 AM

Same thing that happened to everything else on Alrest.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#11715: Jun 2nd 2019 at 5:41:24 AM

My personal theory is that Ontos is Mira, or the Black Knight from the end of Xenoblade X because god damn it that game deserves more love.

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#11716: Jun 2nd 2019 at 7:52:46 AM

I imagined she might have been the monster the party fights in the dead womb of Torna's titan.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11717: Jun 2nd 2019 at 9:20:29 AM

I just assumed Klaus was the only one who was bisected and Galea was just straight up yanked into the new universe

And the fact that Malos uses Monado arts and Mythra has future sight is just a giant 'Alvis is Ontos' sign, really.

Edited by asterism on Jun 2nd 2019 at 4:21:25 PM

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11718: Jun 2nd 2019 at 9:33:17 AM

My Blades that have reached S+ Trust.

  • Aegis
  • Dromarch
  • Brighid
  • Poppi
  • Brighid
  • Pandoria
  • Shulk
  • Fiora
  • Elma
  • KOS-MOS
  • T-elos
  • Aegaeon
  • Wulfric
  • Patroka
  • Mikhail
  • Obrona
  • Corvin
  • Crossette
  • Praxis
  • Theory
  • Kasandra
  • Herald
  • Finch
  • Electra
  • Perceval
  • Newt
  • Zenobia
  • Dagas
  • Sheba
  • Ursula
  • Adenine

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#11719: Jun 2nd 2019 at 11:17:55 AM

Yeah, I never really had the desire to go S+ Trust so obsessively. How much time did you think you spent farming for that Love Potion plant?

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11720: Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:07:32 PM

Total farming time is 17 hours, I think.

It takes 51 potions to get 9 Blades from S to S+.

51 Flutterheart and Melodious Melons take 2 hours. The rest takes 3 hours.

So a generous estimate is 5 hours to get 9 Blades to S+.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:16:03 AM

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#11721: Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:08:37 PM

So, I'm playing around with the alternate costumes and it's pretty funny to see Pyra running around looking like Mythra and vice versa. I also have Nia in her lovely sundress and it's funny to see her Twin Rings hanging from nothing. It's also so weird to see her Core Crystal just casually exposed like that.

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#11722: Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:15:36 PM

[up][up]I'm someone who completed Ursula's quest multiple times, but even I don't have the patience to do that.

[up]Actually, I don't think Nia's core crystal is exposed in that outfit. Clever.

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#11723: Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:16:36 PM

It does.

Source: The gang's been wearing swimsuits for 20 hours.

Another source: https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Fancy_Sundress_Nia?comments_page=1

Spoiler obviously.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:23:25 AM

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#11724: Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:38:32 PM

Well, take it from someone who rarely uses the swimsuit outfits in the first place...

I thought only Blade Nia's outfits were locked in the Land of Challenge until after Chapter 7 alongside Zeke's swimsuit.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#11725: Jun 2nd 2019 at 2:22:07 PM

Yeah, pretty sure you can't use Nia or Zeke's swimsuits until those particular reveals

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