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Jackerel SURPRISE from ur sentry Since: Feb, 2011
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#1: Mar 30th 2011 at 4:57:44 PM

Yes, I'm sure it's not intentional - if it was, there'd be an edit reason, and I'm sure most people aren't Wiki Vandals purposefully using bad wiki formatting.

Someone editing right after me causes my edits to be reverted/deleted. Not really sure how to explain it, but my edits on Sucker Punch should show an example.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2: Mar 30th 2011 at 5:02:19 PM

Are you trying to edit multiple pages at one time? If that's the case, you might not have the pages locked and people are accidentally overwriting your edits.

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Mar 30th 2011 at 5:05:32 PM

Given the timestamps on the edits, it looks like an editing collisiion — you're both editing at the same time and the software only saves the version that is saved last — so if you change the first paragraph, and they're changing the third paragraph, and you save first, their save reverts your because in the copy they saved your changes weren't made. Does that make sense?

Are you opening another page for editing right after you opened Sucker Punch, and while you still had it open for editing? If so, that lifts the check-out on the first page you opened, and allows someone else to also edit it at the same time.

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#4: Mar 30th 2011 at 5:14:59 PM

When you click Edit Page, it is "checked out" to your handle/IP for 20 minutes. If you start editing another page, or that time expires, anyone else can make an edit. At that point, which edit is kept depends on who saves last.

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Jackerel SURPRISE from ur sentry Since: Feb, 2011
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#5: Mar 30th 2011 at 5:29:21 PM

Yeah, I edit more than one page at once. I'll have to cease that, then.

Thanks.

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#6: Mar 30th 2011 at 6:16:10 PM

Is that a new feature? I thought you could edit any number of pages at a time, last time I checked.

Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#7: Mar 30th 2011 at 6:19:42 PM

It's not new. You can always edit as many pages as you want, you just can't "check out" (temporarily lock from editing) more than one page, which is important if your edit will take more than a minute or two so that someone doesn't come along and overwrite your edit because you saved your edit between when they started to edit the page and when they saved it.

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#8: Mar 31st 2011 at 6:33:40 AM

It is highly recommended that if you make large edits to a page that you do it in an external text editor and don't check out the page until you're ready to paste the content in. The reason for only allowing one checkout at a time is to prevent people from abusing the system to lock up whole swathes of pages.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#9: Mar 31st 2011 at 7:49:29 AM

[up] Though that version ups the chances that you are going to overwrite someone else's edits. Every time I've tried it I've ended up having to go back and fix the page after I wiped out other tropers work.

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#10: Mar 31st 2011 at 8:26:39 AM

Well, that version works for me when I'm doing major surgery to a page that doesn't attract many other editors.

For frequently edited pages, it's better to make edits in small chunks within the 20 min limit and have one page checked out at a time, then. :-)

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#11: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:38:11 PM

@melloncollie: Allowing a single troper to check out multiple pages at a time creates too much potential misuse; Vandals could go through and check out a bunch of pages simultaneously and prevent anybody else from editing. At least I believe that's the reasoning behind allowing tropers to only check out one page at a time.

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#12: Apr 8th 2011 at 4:18:48 PM

[up] That is basically correct. One checkout per troper ensures that people can't abuse the system easily.

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