If someone wants to make a crowner, go ahead.
Cutting a page this big and this heavily used is going to cause all kinds of wailing and gnashing of teeth if we don't do it with a certain amount of deliberation. While there isn't a tremendous amount of activity on this discussion now, there sure will be a ton of it if we just cut it without due process.
edited 15th Apr '11 12:04:21 PM by blackcat
True.
Hmm... maybe the examples that have explanations for the derailment are kept (like different Po Vs are causing it), and the rest are cut? (Sorry if this doesn't make much sense.)
I'm saying no for the Darth Wiki vote. It shouldn't be a wasteland where hopeless cases are exiled to.
We could solve that with a red link to discourage pepole from linking it like Wallbanger and MostTriumphantExample.
If this page winds up having to keep it's examples, we'll have to add some strict rules at the top of the page and have a curator zap any entries that don't apply to them.
However, the examples would be from a large varitey works, genres and mediums making it really hard to curate.
I really don't think keeping this trope clean is an option.
Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova ScotianWhat's getting me is that almost no one in this thread voulenteered to clean it but the option to do that is doing very well.
Cleaning this seems like the hardest option but I think very few people actually want to participate in it.
edited 19th Apr '11 4:19:41 PM by DrStarky
Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova ScotianActually, the most popular option is a flame bait banner... Which is pretty much just saying "Oh well."
I'll try cleaning it.
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.I thought a flamebait banner would make the trope appear redlinked, like Wallbanger or This Troper. That's what I had in mind when I put it on the crowner.
That would prevent it from being used to complain around the wiki, though it that still leaves a mess on the page.
edited 19th Apr '11 4:28:22 PM by DrStarky
Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova ScotianFlamebait banners leave red links? If so, then I guess that would improve things.
I'll try looking at the individual pages now to see if I can clean them a bit, but if the flamebait option redlinks the page, I'm all for it.
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.Question: When cleaning, should I take out examples where there was no character to derail?
A good example: One of the video game examples says Amy Rose was derailed into becoming an obsessive Sonic fangirl. From my knowledge of the games, Amy had no character traits other than her liking for Sonic before it became such a huge trait.
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Actually, that example would probably fall under Flanderization, not character derailment, but the point stands: Does there have to be character in the first place?
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.Kay, but Amy still falls under Flanderization, not Character Derailment, from what I can tell.
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
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What would be the best way to fix the page?

That would be a Flame Bait banner.
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