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Flyboy Decemberist from the United States Since: Dec, 2011
Decemberist
#201: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:42:09 PM

Get back to me when a social scientist builds a bridge.

Get back to me when you can build that bridge without economists and sociologists to figure out how to properly organize society for you.

Can't have civic works without some kind of social organization, after all.

*

"Shit, our candidate is a psychopath. Better replace him with Newt Gingrich."
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#202: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:42:57 PM

essentially what Tomu Said. I know for artistic sorts like myself, being able to discuss media without an overabundance of retarded fanboyism is lovely.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#203: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:45:21 PM

Get back to me when a social scientist builds a bridge.

Now, where are the sociologists and geographers to help you work out where to build that bridge?

Like I said, we do real things. tongue

OscarWildecat Bite Me! from The Interwebz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Bite Me!
#204: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:45:24 PM

I was (mostly) joking as well. (In fact, I almost minored in Sociology. Unfortunately, my Engineering Math/Computing Science combo major didn't leave me with enough hours in the day to work it in.)

EDIT: Darn Ninja posts. Also — fun fact — with the advent of GIS, the overlap between sociology, geography, land surveying and engineering is more prominent than ever.

edited 13th Feb '12 1:49:20 PM by OscarWildecat

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#205: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:50:01 PM

Ah, shame.

Obviously, your Sociology degree would've been more hand—

Wait, that's Sociology, sorry. tongue

Flyboy Decemberist from the United States Since: Dec, 2011
Decemberist
#206: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:51:35 PM

Also — fun fact — with the advent of GIS, the overlap between sociology, geography, land surveying and engineering is more prominent than ever.

...explain. surprised

"Shit, our candidate is a psychopath. Better replace him with Newt Gingrich."
OscarWildecat Bite Me! from The Interwebz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#207: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:51:55 PM

[up][up][lol] [up]In a nutshell, it boils down to transportation corridor planning. First, Engineers hate "bridges to nowhere" as much as taxpayers do. Second, the days where a transportation agency can plop down a road from "point a" to "point b" are long gone due to increasing environmental awareness and decreasing willingness to cooperate with the government on such projects (i.e. NIMBY!). Thus, new routes have to be planned far more carefully than ever before.

In fact, there are supercomputer applications designed for the sole purpose of route planning. (The linked one is GIS based, and can account for socioeconomic and environmental costs in addition to construction costs.

edited 13th Feb '12 2:11:15 PM by OscarWildecat

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#208: Feb 13th 2012 at 1:58:32 PM

@ Osc. I can't talk; I hope to do Psychology at degree-level. tongue

Anyway, how does GIS do that thing?

Ailedhoo Heroic Comedic Sociopath from an unknown location Since: Aug, 2011
#209: Feb 13th 2012 at 2:02:38 PM

I am planning to study international politics next September. Afterwards I may continue study.

I’m a lumberjack and I’m ok. I sleep all night and work all day.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#210: Feb 13th 2012 at 2:05:01 PM

Did someone say Supercomputer?!

OscarWildecat Bite Me! from The Interwebz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#211: Feb 13th 2012 at 2:07:01 PM

Just to add to the above, Land Surveying and Civil Engineering firms (like the one I work for) are branching into GIS heavily. On the input side of things, we provide base mapping services for anybody who needs a GIS database. On the output side of things, I personally use a number of GIS data sets in my day-to-day work of hydraulic analysis. (For example, I have a GIS application that determines watershed boundaries given a latitude and longitude, provided you have the basic contour data.)

[up]Yep Supercomputer. The application, named "Quantm", was developed in Australia for alignment planning. It has since taken off there and the rest of the world to the point that the original firm was bought out by one of the worlds biggest manufacturers of surveying equipment. However, I think the supercomputer is still based in Australia. (When I dealt with it, the way it worked was that you prepared your input on a desktop and submitted it to the supercomputer via the internet.)

edited 13th Feb '12 2:10:53 PM by OscarWildecat

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Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
antic disposition
#212: Feb 13th 2012 at 3:08:12 PM

@Flyboy: Knowing engineers, the civil engineers would probably build bridges if only to give the mechanical engineers weapon targets. Then they could build better bridges, and better weapons, and...

"Doctor Who means never having to say you're kidding." - Bocaj
Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#213: Feb 13th 2012 at 3:19:30 PM

It would make sense.

And then, us social scientists would remain in business to keep directing the civil engineers where to build the bridges...

It's a scientific oligopoly!

TheProffesor The Professor from USA Since: Jan, 2011
#214: Feb 13th 2012 at 6:47:47 PM

Good. You guys keep doing things and in 20 years I'll study it. Maybe write a book.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#215: Feb 13th 2012 at 6:52:23 PM

"The Historical Impetus of Socio-Construction Via Internet Fora on the Settlements of Humans Within Early 21st Century Societal Structures" is a good title.

A bit post-modern.

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#216: Feb 13th 2012 at 7:15:52 PM

And meanwhile, I'll be behind the engineers and develop the materials required for both the bridge and the weapons.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#217: Feb 13th 2012 at 7:31:50 PM

But you'll need us social scientists to work out where to drop the bomb for MAX IMPACT.

abstractematics Since: May, 2011
#218: Feb 13th 2012 at 7:34:13 PM

Both of you need mathematicians to calculate the material amounts and the max impact.

I approve of social science. QED

Now using Trivialis handle.
Culex3 They think me mad Since: Jan, 2012
They think me mad
#220: Feb 13th 2012 at 10:37:33 PM

What is it about TV Tropes that attract the intelligent?

I highly doubt the average intellect among people here is any higher than any other forum with similar demographics.

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#221: Feb 13th 2012 at 10:50:24 PM

Both of you need mathematicians to calculate the material amounts and the max impact.

And mathematicians need the right materials for their computers to aid them in their calculations. :P

Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
Is that cake frosting?
#222: Feb 14th 2012 at 1:15:30 AM

And you need logicians to make everybody else feel useful tongue

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
abstractematics Since: May, 2011
#223: Feb 14th 2012 at 1:45:58 AM

[up][up]Math is math, whether we calculate or not.

Anyone else want to share present/future areas of study?

Now using Trivialis handle.
Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
Is that cake frosting?
#224: Feb 14th 2012 at 1:52:54 AM

Future?

Well, lately I've been thinking that it would be cool to get into artificial life, from a theoretical perspective — not coding, just using formal techniques to investigate the notion of life in artificial environments from a theoretical perspective.

I've seen a few cool papers about this sort of stuff around, and it think that it would mesh rather well with the sort of thing I've been doing so far.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
ekuseruekuseru 名無しさん from Australia Since: Oct, 2009
名無しさん
#225: Feb 14th 2012 at 2:04:36 AM

Law/Maths double. Jap as elective.


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