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AllanAssiduity Since: Dec, 1969
#51: Mar 25th 2011 at 7:00:06 PM

There's a connection between being human (of which there are many, e.g. accountants, students, priests) and paedophilia.

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Ah, now that's a great page-topper.

edited 25th Mar '11 7:01:18 PM by AllanAssiduity

zoulza WHARRGARBL Since: Dec, 2010
WHARRGARBL
#52: Mar 25th 2011 at 7:24:14 PM

There's a connection between being a child and being the victim of paedophilia.

Also, PETA does have a bit of a tendency to take animals from animal shelters and kill them...

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apocalypse from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apocalypse
#53: Mar 25th 2011 at 7:24:22 PM

The position of power point was brought up in another topic. They use the position of power to get what they want and maintain their secrecy.

Who watches the watchmen?
PDown It's easy, mmkay? Since: Jan, 2012
It's easy, mmkay?
#54: Mar 25th 2011 at 7:34:40 PM

@zoulza: That was my point...

At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff...
pathfinder Swords are for wimps from Bearbrass Since: Nov, 2010
Swords are for wimps
#55: Mar 25th 2011 at 7:35:13 PM

There's a connection to positions of power and authority, and the abuse of that power or authority

The terrible downside to multiple identities: multiple tax returns
Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#57: Mar 25th 2011 at 9:26:47 PM

What laculus said; it's always fascinating and depressing to hear the guilty try to excuse themselves.
Indeed. Although the most depressing part is that after hearing such arguments, someone somewhere would be convinced by them. Humans being humans.

Next up, Al Gore attempts to cure global warming by flying around in his private jet, PETA attempts to cure cruelty to animals by killing as many of them as they can get their hands on, and Barack Obama attempts to cure war by bombing Libya!
Well, there are people who think that the best way to cure human misery is to wipe out humanity entirely. Also, guillotine is an effective cure of headache.

There's a connection to positions of power and authority, and the abuse of that power or authority
Exactly. And they sometimes have way too much authority.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#58: Mar 25th 2011 at 9:30:07 PM

Well, it's difficult to abuse your authority if you don't actually have any authority.

Be not afraid...
pathfinder Swords are for wimps from Bearbrass Since: Nov, 2010
Swords are for wimps
#59: Mar 25th 2011 at 10:33:10 PM

do you think that would ever stop someone from trying

The terrible downside to multiple identities: multiple tax returns
mailedbypostman Since: May, 2010
#60: Mar 25th 2011 at 10:40:24 PM

Perhaps we should next attempt to cure the human race of murderous tendencies by killing them off.

edited 25th Mar '11 10:40:33 PM by mailedbypostman

pathfinder Swords are for wimps from Bearbrass Since: Nov, 2010
Swords are for wimps
#61: Mar 25th 2011 at 11:57:32 PM

but who shall do the killing?

The terrible downside to multiple identities: multiple tax returns
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#62: Mar 25th 2011 at 11:58:02 PM

[up] Robots, but that's a different topic.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#63: Mar 26th 2011 at 12:15:53 AM

I've heard it argued that the reason we're seeing so many pedophile priests is that people who realized that their urges were dangerous turned to religion in an unsuccessful attempt to purify themselves. I'm a little wary of the reasoning under which said urges inevitably turn to action—but then again, maybe loli porn exists for a good reason.

This man, though, just . . . ugh. I forced myself to read the article so I could have an informed discussion on this, but I think I'll be filing it away in the same corner of my mind as Bridalplasty and never discussing it again.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#64: Mar 26th 2011 at 12:18:17 AM

[up] I get a feeling that repression also tends to add to it, because let's face it, a goodly chunk of the Abrahamic religions do focus on "remaining sexually pure", and sometimes that goes to the point of being detrimental.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#65: Mar 26th 2011 at 12:54:16 AM

Even if celibacy were "detrimental", one wonders why those ordained who break it would go after children instead of...you know...women.

edited 26th Mar '11 12:54:37 AM by Pykrete

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#66: Mar 26th 2011 at 12:57:45 AM

[up] Easier targets. Children are, by most stereotypes, more trusting and more easily taken advantage of, simply because they don't know better.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#67: Mar 26th 2011 at 12:59:15 AM

But looking for women would be both morally better, and unlikely to land you in jail.

Be not afraid...
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#68: Mar 26th 2011 at 1:02:00 AM

[up] But they're more likely to tell the rest of the congregation. Besides, most children (ten and under) are not very likely to register the molestation as "wrong" at the time, unless there's violence or significant pain involved.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#69: Mar 26th 2011 at 1:04:13 AM

They could always hire prostitutes.

There must be another issue in here besides just wanting sex. There are plenty of ways to get sex without resorting to child molestation.

Be not afraid...
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#70: Mar 26th 2011 at 1:09:17 AM

But they're more likely to tell the rest of the congregation.

If they sleep with someone in the congregation.

zoulza WHARRGARBL Since: Dec, 2010
WHARRGARBL
#71: Mar 26th 2011 at 1:15:09 AM

[up][up] God, I want to link to a video of that one pastor crying and apologising to God/Jesus for hiring a prostitute, but I can't remember his name!

On a similar note, it's kind of ridiculous how often these people get caught doing shit like this.

Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#72: Mar 26th 2011 at 1:27:17 AM

Even if celibacy were "detrimental", one wonders why those ordained who break it would go after children instead of...you know...women.
As been said above, easier targets. An adult woman is more likely to know that something is wrong. Also, more likely to tell someone and be believed. Besides, adult females have been targeted too, it just creates less outrage and it is more difficult to prove that it's the offenders who used their position in order to coerce another into sex.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#73: Mar 26th 2011 at 2:04:10 AM

This is why the Gregorian reforms can bite the shiniest part of my arsehole. Clerical celibacy is one of the most stupid ideas that I have ever encountered, and not only that it has ended up with a situation where no-one wants to join the priesthood, or those that do instantly becoming hypocrites because they want to have a family.

Also, Fuck "purity". Pure does not equal good by any means.

LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#74: Mar 26th 2011 at 2:07:22 AM

An old parish priest of mine told me that he thought of clerical celibacy not as purity, but as taking all the love, time, and attention he could have given to a wife and family, and instead giving it to the community as a whole.

Be not afraid...
JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#75: Mar 26th 2011 at 2:11:42 AM

So he was quite literally "fucking his community" tongue. There are different sorts of love, and human beings sometimes need sex, to say that somehow focussing on good works gets rid of that is a bit deluded.

The actual reasons behind Clerical Celibacy was so that the priests would have "pure hands" for handling christ. I did study this for a little bit, the Gregorian reforms were mainly aimed at "purity" and increasing the control of Rome. Both of which I quite dislike.


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