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edited 11th Apr '18 6:31:51 PM by dRoy
I asked this question a few months ago, and I'm reposting it because the only answer I got was akin to 'get some IV tubing and weights and see for yourself'. That's why I'm asking here- I can't readily obtain IV tubing, and I doubt my parents would approve.
At one point in my work, I've planned to have a side character starve himself, then commit suicide via hanging with IV tubing or other tubing easily found in a hospital room. Is it possible for someone to hang themselves with IV tubing, or would it be too short/weak/slippery? If not, is there anything else readily available in the average hospital room for him to do the deed, or am I going to have to rethink this?
"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."I've dealt with rubber tubing that's at least similar to IV tubing before. It likes to stretch, so hanging someone with it is not going to be a quick neck-break affair, it's going to be a long-drawn-out-strangulation affair, and that's assuming it'll hold the weight. (We never put it under human-weight strain, so can't say if it will or not.) I'd expect a different means of suicide to be more practicable.
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That's what I thought.
Given the type and severity of terminal illness I plan on giving this guy,
it would probably be easier for him to just keep a cord or rope or something hidden in his stuff until the day came.
That could also do, and it creates the strong visual that I want.
Thanks, that cleared it up. Wow, I'm morbid.
edited 25th Nov '12 7:36:27 PM by CrystalGlacia
"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."Unless the group is recognized as a religion, there are straightforward laws against fully obscuring one's face in public spaces. Think driving without a numberplate, applied to people, and with pretty much the same motivation behind the regulation.
I'm not sure how that meshes with things like carnivals, where doing exactly that is the whole point - perhaps there are official exceptions for those, or perhaps it's still officially illegal but there is an understanding that the law just won't be enforced.
Anyway, in some places, it would most definitely not be tolerated, unless extenuating circumstances apply.
ETA: Sorry, I meant to say "there are straightforward laws against it in some Western European countries", but seem to have forgotten to put in the second part.
edited 25th Nov '12 8:18:01 PM by kassyopeia
Soon the Cold One took flight, yielded Goddess and field to the victor: The Lord of the Light.I've handled IV tubing, and mostly agree with 4
. My guess would be that it wouldn't break under the strain, but that it might stretch enough to become completely ineffective, by virtue of either letting the "victim's" feet reach the floor, or for the noose to enlarge to the point at which it puts pressure on the lower jaw rather than the throat, which I imagine is highly unpleasant but no immediate threat to survival.
Hmmm, good point. And I guess that if the person were to, say, lose consciousness and slump in just the right way once their feet do reach the ground, even a significantly distended noose could become dangerous again. So maybe this is possible, after all, with some ingenuity and/or "luck".
Soon the Cold One took flight, yielded Goddess and field to the victor: The Lord of the Light.Just announcing my existence so when I suddenly appear and start answering questions, it doesn't confuse anyone or anything. I may post a proper inquiry later. Depends.
...Please let this be the right thread this time. Brain am not work good with mouth words. Hyudeswfhejus.
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edited 26th Nov '12 11:37:22 AM by CrystalGlacia
"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."I have two politicians' wives in my story. One is the First Lady, Marina, who is very snobbish and kind of a backstabber, but is great at playing on people's sympathies and acting convincingly nice. She's a high-maintainance, manipulative Rich Bitch. The other is the heroine, Eva, who is her friend only because Marina gives highly-paid political positions to her friends. Eva is head of the broadcasters' union, in charge of broadcasting propaganda.
Marina's one of the main antagonists, who like Eva is attempting to get someone (not her husband, but a close confidant, namely her brother) into the Presidency, because she's sick of playing second fiddle to her husband. Her rationale is that since she and her brother are so close, she can find a way to get power through him, since her husband is losing popularity and people are desperate for change, and then eventually remove her brother through an "accident".
What is something she could convince him to promise (that she knows he supports- they are very conservative, while Eva is a populist, almost fascist? It should be something that provides some benefit to people but provides opportunity for government corruption.
edited 26th Nov '12 8:47:32 PM by MorwenEdhelwen
The road goes ever on. -TolkienWhat are the respective opposites of the emotions of Acceptancenote and Fearnote ?
And can pure Ambition unchecked by any morals serve the Evil Counterpart to the emotion of Hope?
edited 27th Nov '12 10:22:32 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Well, depending on which usage of acceptance you're using, it could be either intolerance (if you're talking about accepting others) or denial (if it's acceptance of a truth or oneself).
A Google search reveals that the opposite of fear is something that can't be summed up in one word; some have proposed knowledge- associating fear in general with fear of the unknown -or faith/hope.
edited 27th Nov '12 10:33:47 AM by CrystalGlacia
"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."edited 27th Nov '12 10:41:57 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Each of those proposals for the opposite of fear focused on an aspect of it, since it's such a complex emotion. The person who proposed knowledge/wisdom associated fear in general with fear of the unknown, as I said. The people who proposed hope and faith basically extrapolated further on the previous reasonings for knowledge being fear's opposite- people fear what is unknown, knowledge dispels that unknown, from that knowledge springs the faith that leads one to believe that all will be well in the end, and hope follows.
Hey, that's what these people
said, not me.
Well, I don't think they are using "opposite" right; what they're looking for is "countermeasure", which always depends on the cause(s). Fear born of ignorance ("I don't know what that is, but it doesn't looks friendly/safe!") is cured by knowledge; fear that is born of knowledge ("I know just how threatening a thing is, and that while it has a weakness, we do not have the means to exploit it!"), however, would require a different solution.
Now that I think about, the closest thing to an opposite of fear is boldness or audacity — the daring to fearlessly do or face something that you should be afraid of. That's different from actual bravery/courage, the overcoming of one's existent fear.
edited 27th Nov '12 11:02:31 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.The "Five Stages of Grief
" employs the terms "Denial" and "Acceptance" verbatim, so I'd definitely go with that.
It doesn't cover quite as broad a semantic range as "Fear" does, but might "Longing" work?
Ambition seems more like the proactive counterpart to Hope as a passive emotion to me. "I hope they will live happily ever after" works, but so does "I hope they will suffer eternal misery and torment". Doesn't that suggest that Hope itself is neutral rather than good?
Soon the Cold One took flight, yielded Goddess and field to the victor: The Lord of the Light.4
In the Screw Destiny sense, "Defiance" might work better than "Denial".
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Nnno, I don't think so. Audacity is the counterpart of Timidity, which is related to but not the same thing as Fear.

I suppose yes, if that group isn't associated with terrorism.
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