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nuclearneo Nuclearneo577's puppet from Not my main computer. Since: Feb, 2011
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#1: Mar 15th 2011 at 12:12:34 PM

As per this thread. Is this is useful notes, why is the picture a joke?

edited 15th Mar '11 12:12:51 PM by nuclearneo

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#2: Mar 15th 2011 at 12:17:29 PM

Well, it would be an indication that we want one of our articles, not some encyclopedic thing. Useful Notes are light-spirited looks at facts that may be useful in making a story, not a dry essay.

edited 15th Mar '11 1:55:43 PM by FastEddie

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#3: Mar 15th 2011 at 12:21:30 PM

[up]Good point. At least the map is real.

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#4: Mar 15th 2011 at 12:25:25 PM

The actual Union Flag is common knowledge, and if somebody doesn't know it, they can always check Wikipedia. In any case, the Gurren Jack is, by my estimations, approximately 99.9999879849% more awesome than the actual Union Flag.

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TARDISES pirate girl Since: May, 2011
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#5: Mar 15th 2011 at 12:30:09 PM

Might be missing the point of them, but aren't the useful notes meant to convey factual information?

...And awesome how can something that out of place be awesome? EVER?

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#6: Mar 15th 2011 at 12:39:38 PM

Maybe we could just change the caption to something like "This addition makes the Union Jack 97.2% more awesome." or something like that.

That way we could keep the joke while still referencing the actual flag.

edited 15th Mar '11 12:40:56 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#7: Mar 15th 2011 at 1:46:37 PM

[up]Sure.

IanExMachina The Paedofinder General from Gone with the Chickens Since: Jul, 2009
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#8: Mar 21st 2011 at 4:49:44 PM

I have to say I think it would be better with a joke more suited to Britain or British Media than a Japanese Anime series.

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#9: Mar 22nd 2011 at 1:06:00 AM

[up] Yeah, put the TARDIS on the flag. I am all for a joke image but why one from Japan on the article about Britain?

edited 22nd Mar '11 1:07:34 AM by Ghilz

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#10: Mar 22nd 2011 at 1:47:22 AM

Because this was an actual joke. Some news company left a "redesign the British flag" poll/quiz/thingy open online, and since Gurren Lagann was just coming out, this was the one that won.

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AngryScientist Nostalgia from Russia with Love Since: Nov, 2009
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#11: Mar 22nd 2011 at 3:56:49 AM

It's presumably from a British entrant, too.

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#12: Mar 22nd 2011 at 1:47:48 PM

[up][up] & [up]

A 4 year old obscure newspaper/company competition where the flag is redesigned with reference to an (Obscure or not depends on reader) Japanese Anime, and the flag was submitted by a Norwegian.

How very British.

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#14: Mar 22nd 2011 at 3:28:53 PM

[up]

I'd say we'd still want something humourous yes, not sure that pic would work though. I mean I'm not a comic fan but I know there is at least a Captain Britain or Union Jack we could maybe get a funny screen cap or something from those franchises?

If not maybe something like this?

Very Patriotic

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#15: Mar 26th 2011 at 2:40:51 PM

Bump?

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AngryScientist Nostalgia from Russia with Love Since: Nov, 2009
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#16: Mar 27th 2011 at 5:32:40 AM

A 4 year old obscure newspaper/company competition where the flag is redesigned with reference to an (Obscure or not depends on reader) Japanese Anime, and the flag was submitted by a Norwegian.

Not that this invalidates your point at all, but:

  • The Telegraph is obscure?
  • Things that win popularity contests are generally not obscure either.

edited 27th Mar '11 5:35:20 AM by AngryScientist

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#17: Mar 27th 2011 at 5:57:10 AM

[up]

Not great wording on my part:

The competition is Obscure not the Telegraph. Online only, week long opening time and it is clearly a spacefiller for their online content. Never was a major thing in Britain, online or not.

Not as important a point but the Telegraph thinks that the picture is of the welsh dragon wearing shades...

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#18: Apr 22nd 2011 at 5:39:00 PM

[up][up] yeah, but, considering the nature of the "winner", I suspect that someone leaked the contest to a certain imageboard, who then forced that one to "win"

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#19: Apr 23rd 2011 at 1:08:17 AM

Getting the flag 100% correct, in both appearance and terminology (the flag that is being referred to herein is not the British flag, in fact I don't think I've seen a British flag since the early 80s) is something you can spend weeks on, possibly even years. It's one of those things that people took really seriously before they had television. Aside from everything else we'd need to clarify which side was the flagpole.

I'd prefer to keep something on the image to indicate that we don't need the level of accuracy that it is possible to put into these things. As such I would suggest choosing something from Union Jack Wear that is suitably inappropriate but still represents the kind of drek you might be able to buy in Britain if you have little enough taste. The Union jack baseball cap would work as an embodiment of several jokes about americanization in Britain.

Although my first choice is the toilet seat. Britain is known for toilet humour.

edited 23rd Apr '11 1:08:33 AM by Michael

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#20: Apr 23rd 2011 at 1:11:46 AM

Don't people know what the flag looks like? Why does it need the flag as the page image?

shark33 Since: Nov, 2010
#21: Apr 23rd 2011 at 2:56:47 AM

The image for the useful notes for the US have a map of North America with The US territory on a different color, does people really don't know where The US is located on a map?.

Of course, this isn't an encyclopedia, but I think it could be seen as insulting that the article about ones country feature a joke as its introductory image.

edited 23rd Apr '11 2:57:08 AM by shark33

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#22: Apr 23rd 2011 at 11:18:45 AM

Sorry, are you saying the British page is offensive for having an Affectionate Parody of their flag, or the USA page is offensive for having an image joke about how Americans supposedly can't find their country on a map?

I'd expect people to take more offense to the USA page.

shark33 Since: Nov, 2010
#23: Apr 23rd 2011 at 1:03:36 PM

First of all, are you saying that the map is a joke?

I don't think it's offensive, but I would understand if someone took offense to it. And does the page image really needs to be a joke?

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#24: Apr 23rd 2011 at 1:15:56 PM

The map isn't a joke, the caption is a joke.

British making fun of their flag is no big deal. We don't have a flag code which prevents us from wearing the flag as a jockstrap. (It was a charity event okay?)

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#25: Apr 23rd 2011 at 1:28:00 PM

Why not both? Jokes are fun, but people goes to Useful Notes for it useful information, which include flags. Lets just show the flag in the end of the article, like we do to all other countries Useful Notes (Preferably with a small joke referring to the first flage).


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