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troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1: Mar 14th 2011 at 12:36:34 PM

Previous thread didn't work out, so let's try again.

The current image is just a Title Drop with no visual element helping to demonstrate the trope—essentially, it merely restates the trope title, but in cartoon form. Being on a magazine cover doesn't help show the trope because it's actually quite rare for the trope to appear on a magazine cover—its most common use is in dialogue. Whether or not we decide on a better image, this one has to go because it doesn't show the trope at all.

Here is my suggestion. A nice, straight example with an over-the-top Milking the Giant Cow pose to emphasize how awesome she thinks it was. Alternately, a two-panel version.

edited 14th Mar '11 12:38:43 PM by troacctid

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#2: Mar 14th 2011 at 12:50:10 PM

I agree we can do better, but the trope is a stock phrase, which means the title is an example of the trope. Therefore the current picture is not a title drop. This isn't like a picture of someone saying "Everythings Better With Princesses" but there isn't a princess in the actual picture.

As for the suggestion, it's really wordy, and is a very roundabout way to say the trope.

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#3: Mar 14th 2011 at 12:56:40 PM

Wasn't the conclusion of the last one "don't make another until Madrugada does?"

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#4: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:00:20 PM

Suggestion in the OP works fine for the trope and gets my backing, but people complaining about the amount of text and the possible NSFWG problems.

[up] Well, it's been a week or so...this may get closed too, but I think we can come up with some better options than the magazine cover and possibly avoid the arguments in the last thread.

edited 14th Mar '11 1:16:09 PM by Willbyr

INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#5: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:05:13 PM

I like the new suggestion in the OP less than I like the previous one. It's like the magazine, but with more text.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#6: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:08:47 PM

^^^^ Stock Phrase does not mean it's okay to not use any visual elements in an image to convey an example. Are We There Yet?, Eat the Rich, [Verb] This!, Trust Me, I'm an X, Bigger Than Jesus, Follow That Car, Don't Ask, & more are all Stock Phrases that use actual imagery to convey even just a part of their respective trope. Even pages with nothing more than talking heads and speech bubbles like Time for Plan B make more use of imagery for a Stock Phrase than what's currently on Better than Sex. It's not enough to just be an example; an trope page image still needs to provide a relevant visual.

The best I found through GIS was a lolcat, though I understand those aren't very well accepted anymore.

There was an even better one I found, but it's copyrighted and would cost $12 for us to use on a yearly basis.

edited 14th Mar '11 1:21:37 PM by SeanMurrayI

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:39:17 PM

<Mod Hat ON>

I did say not to make a new one. However, I also said That I would make a new on in a couple of days, and I fell through on that.

As long as this one doesn't devolve back into the bickering and sniping that got the old one locked, there's no problem with it.

<Mod Hat OFF>

edited 14th Mar '11 1:52:19 PM by Madrugada

Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:41:38 PM

My opinion is that the proposed three-panel comic is entirely too long, and far more dependent on words to make the point than the comic book cover is. The first two panels are completely reliant on big blocks of text, and the third one doesn't even use the stock phrase at all.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#9: Mar 14th 2011 at 1:53:56 PM

and the third one doesn't even use the stock phrase at all.
Wordiness is a matter of taste, but in regards to this, the trope isn't just the words "Better Than Sex." The trope is drawing a comparison between sex and something else (and concluding that the other thing is better). There's a Stock Phrase that's used for it, but the trope doesn't require the Stock Phrase. For example, a simple chart like this is still an example of the trope even though it doesn't even have a complete sentence.

edited 14th Mar '11 1:54:42 PM by troacctid

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Mar 14th 2011 at 2:07:38 PM

I agree that the trope doesn't require the exact form, but the picture still is too wordy in getting to the point (and the form is common enough that simply using the phrase is not a title drop).

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#11: Mar 14th 2011 at 2:22:21 PM

I do like the chart though. We can even sub out "Portal 2" for anything else that may satisfy the most number of people. "TV Tropes," for instance.

INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#12: Mar 14th 2011 at 2:25:26 PM

Or just a generic "this" for the thing on the right, making it an all-purpose chart.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#13: Mar 14th 2011 at 3:23:46 PM

Well, I don't know about anything that generic...

But, yeah, the bar graph sounds like a good way to go.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14: Mar 14th 2011 at 4:17:07 PM

Like this?

some caption text

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#15: Mar 14th 2011 at 4:17:25 PM

The this as the other item strikes me as hilarious.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#16: Mar 14th 2011 at 4:32:30 PM

That is a good picture.

BTW, would the current picture work on Nerds Are Virgins?

edited 14th Mar '11 4:32:36 PM by DragonQuestZ

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#17: Mar 14th 2011 at 4:40:28 PM

troacctid's graph for the win.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Mar 14th 2011 at 5:04:59 PM

I like the graph and I really like the version with "this".

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#20: Mar 14th 2011 at 5:13:40 PM

I think it should be something nerdy, so that the other thing doesn't get confused with something that is also sexual.

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#21: Mar 14th 2011 at 5:47:55 PM

A little late to this thread but here's some stuff I pulled from a GIS search:

couple of chocolate cake being better

Computer Science is better than sex [1]

Apparently there's also a sauce that's better than sex [2]

Not to mention an entire restaurant

Some people really like Sushi

And really, Final Fantasy VII better than sex? [3]

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#22: Mar 14th 2011 at 6:17:25 PM

I want to use one of the chocolate pics, just so we can have a caption that basically goes "But we don't know where that chocolate's been."

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collex Since: Jan, 2010
#23: Mar 14th 2011 at 6:29:55 PM

I love the sushi one, especially, number 2, which is the clearer of the bunch. The "in HD" tag really seals the deal me.

Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#24: Mar 15th 2011 at 1:42:49 PM

I like the chocolate idea, the second is my favorite.

The sushi is perfect for Food Porn, especially the first.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#25: Mar 15th 2011 at 9:06:54 PM

The 3rd and 5th sushi pics are making me hungry! >_<

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