Correct me if I am wrong but isn't true of many cities? Every city I have lived in has this to some degree or another. Omaha, NE i roughly divided int 4 sectors and our population base is rather interesting.
While Detroit may need saving from itself I don't think taking the lamb from the quick sand and throwing it to the wolf is the way to get it back to the flock. The way this thing looks structured it could and likely would be very heavily abused by those placed into the position of power.
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Who watches the watchmen?As long as people can functionally go about their daily lives, there won't be an uprising, because people don't want to interfere with their daily lives. The "badguys" continue to encroach more and more, but they're trying not to cross that line.
That being said, they may have made a critical blunder.
Sorry just saying we have to draw the line somewhere or it'll be too late and we'll be screwed. I know i'm Godwinning but i'm not sure how better to put it. Admittedly i[ve spent too much time listening to Michael Badnirk.
We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?Even though my opinion of America(ns) when it comes to matters of liberty and democracy is not very high, I think most Americans have an internal line drawn somewhere far from Nazi Germany.
For clarification: far too democratic to ever become Fascist, not the other way 'round.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.Democracy:
"Rule by the people, especially as a form of government; either directly or through elected representatives"
Republic:
"A state where sovereignty rests with the people or their representatives, rather than with a monarch or emperor; a country with no monarchy."
So a republic is one model of a democratic state.
Other forms of democracy include Socialism (as it was initially defined, not as it has usually turned out) and Parliamentary Democracy such as the US.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.From Middle French democratie (French démocratie) < Medieval Latin democratia < Ancient Greek δημοκρατία (dēmokratia), from δῆμος (dēmos, “common people”) + κράτος (kratos, “rule, strength”).
Allowing the strong or the majority to rule over the weak or minority.
We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?Where did you get that? The usual definition
certainly is "rule of the people" so any state that has regular, free Parliamentary (and usually Presidential and other) elections where the people elected actually get the position and have actual power is a democracy.
Words like "democracy", "republic" and "dictatorship" are not always exclusive.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I42Ez46vJ_8
This video puts good explanation.
At any rate can we get back on topic this is about the bullshit goingo n in Michigan not about what the country is. if you want to discuss further we should create a new topic.
We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?I'm in Wisconsin, but still think this law is a bit too drastic. You have my support.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FrySomething else to bear in mind is that Michigan already had a financial emergency management law on the books for some time. As I said, the Detroit Public School system is being run by a financial manager. That said, the difference are the added powers, including the power to dismiss elected officials and disincorporate towns and localities. That said, another thing to bear in mind is that all state legislatures have that power in the US. Local governments are not sovereign in the US.
There's already pushback: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/politics/lansing-march-17
More people seem concerned about canceling the union contracts than anything else. What happens next will depend upon how these new powers are used. There wont be any civil suits filed until a emergency financial manager actually tries to do any of these things. Then it will likely end up in court, for a protracted legal battle. How it will eventually play out is anyone's guess.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.Well, there is the rub. The democrat running against Snyder was basically a union shill, promising to bring manufacturing jobs back to Michigan. Right. So we voters basically had a dilemma, and I really cant blame anyone who ended up deciding Snyder might have been the lesser of two evils.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.

Yeah, I am talking about Snyder type Fiscals, who are basically Totalitarian Republicans.