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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3776: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:04:20 PM

The actual price of $500 is not bad considering the hardware you are getting, it's not much different price-wise than the enhanced 250GB 360 and it's not as bad as the bare-bone PS 3 being $600. It's only that the PS 4 managed to undercut them that makes the $500 look bad. If the PS 4 was $450 it would almost be a non-issue.

AnSTH Lawful Evil Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#3777: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:12:07 PM

They could earn back a lot of support by releasing versions of the console that come without many of the built-in things people don't want. Mainly the Kinect. Microsoft and Sony are more equal when the PS Eye thing is taken into account, but again that's optional and totally not required for the system to operate normally.

It won't fix all the problems the system has, but it would be a good first step.

But that's a story for another time.
Ryuhza Brother from San Diego County, California Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
Brother
#3778: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:13:08 PM

Actually, the bare-bones launch PS 3 was $499, but it had a smaller hard drive than the $599 model and lacked both flash memory card readers and built-in Wi-Fi.

The most ridiculous thing about Xbox One's price right now is that the rival console that is $100 cheaper has better hardware in a smaller package.

edited 17th Jun '13 9:16:46 PM by Ryuhza

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NewCope Since: Dec, 2009
#3779: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:18:25 PM
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AnSTH Lawful Evil Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
The Chew Toy of Gaming
#3781: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:19:56 PM

[up][up]Actually, you can, but it's still a turd to those who dig deep enough.

...Why did I feel the need to say that?

edited 17th Jun '13 9:20:19 PM by DragonGeyser

Lampshade Hanging: It's a lifestyle.
NewCope Since: Dec, 2009
#3782: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:20:36 PM
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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3783: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:21:09 PM

Can we stop with the unconstructive bashing? Thanks.

It's not funny at all.

The $500 price was justified because it has a ton of extra stuff that it can do. Not all of it is good, obviously. But the price is understandable.

Shadow?
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#3784: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:21:14 PM

What kind of slogan do you think it'll have?

The Protomen enhanced my life.
OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#3785: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:22:04 PM

The One And only.

nyo ho ho
AnSTH Lawful Evil Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#3786: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:22:30 PM

[up]x4 That's not a particularly mature response. Whatever. Have fun on your bandwagon.

edited 17th Jun '13 9:22:53 PM by AnSTH

But that's a story for another time.
NewCope Since: Dec, 2009
#3787: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:32:07 PM
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Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#3788: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:34:43 PM

Cough

Wording, wording...

How long do you think that this absolute SNAFU of a PR disaster will affect the XB One, even with modifications made to the console as damage control?

"He could not know it. For it was not all a joke."
DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
The Chew Toy of Gaming
#3789: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:35:57 PM

As long as it exists.

Lampshade Hanging: It's a lifestyle.
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3790: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:36:47 PM

Probably a while.

When's the release date of the system? They might have enough time to fix some stuff.

edited 21st Sep '13 10:49:45 PM by Irene

Shadow?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#3791: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:39:42 PM

They might have enough time but do they want to? So far they seem to be soldiering on no matter what negative PR they generate. The fact that they're not walking back anything after Sony decimated them at E3 shows that they either don't think it's as bad as it is or they can win over consumers.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3792: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:46:58 PM

Maybe.

I didn't say they would, just that they could. I doubt they would, yeah.

That's also why I asked for the date. tongue

Shadow?
CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#3793: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:47:13 PM

Well, they've outright stated they're counting on people not doing the research before buying the system.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3795: Jun 17th 2013 at 10:00:59 PM

"Heavily implied" might be the better term to use, given how people like to exaggerate everything. But "outright stated" is false. If anything they are anticipating the options the cloud gaming will offer as being the biggest selling point, which, you know, requires research.

The X-Box rep I talked to compared it to the "banana controller" of the PS 3 and how things are subject to change depending on the feedback. This is obviously more than an aesthetic/ergonomic change but they can and most likely WILL change the various policies they are implementing. To what, I don't know.

edited 17th Jun '13 10:03:10 PM by KJMackley

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#3796: Jun 17th 2013 at 10:06:57 PM

While the Internet is decidedly up in arms about the way the Xbox One handles game ownership and online check-ins, Mehdi said it was "hard to say" what the larger reaction from the less attentive mainstream consumers would be. "I think it's fair to say there's a segment of consumers at this show in particular who really pay attention, who are very passionate about all aspects of gaming, and that we listen to closely. In a broader set of community, people don't pay attention to a lot of the details. We've seen it in the research, we've seen it in a lot of the data points."

There's the quote. Here is the link. Decide for yourselves. But to me that sounds an awful lot like someone saying that Internet outrage doesn't matter because most people don't do the research.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3797: Jun 17th 2013 at 10:13:35 PM

That is taking it WAY out of context. He isn't saying the XB One is going to sell because consumers are uneducated, he is saying it is hard to tell the response of the casual gamers who aren't going to be ranting on message boards and likely haven't heard about it yet.

The first line is saying that they are going to do their best to make sure everyone understands what the XB One is going to do. "This is a big change, consumers don't always love change, and there's a lot of education we have to provide to make sure that people understand."

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#3798: Jun 17th 2013 at 10:18:26 PM

Uh, no. The rest of the article is about how Microsoft needs to educate consumers. That part right there is talking about people's reactions to unfavorable policies and how that might affect things.

But again, I posted a link to the article. People can read and decide for themselves.

edited 17th Jun '13 10:20:35 PM by CorrTerek

Colonial1.1 Purveyor of Obscurity from The Marvelous River City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Purveyor of Obscurity
#3799: Jun 17th 2013 at 11:23:25 PM

Over 76%, once again.

"He could not know it. For it was not all a joke."
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#3800: Jun 17th 2013 at 11:27:47 PM

Holy shit. Nova Scotia really hates the Xbone.


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