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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#3501: Jun 14th 2013 at 12:33:51 PM

Taira Mai: That's mostly true, actually. Gamestop gives more credit on games like Super Mario Galaxy, and Zelda games, because it's so rare for them to have them used. People tend to keep them.

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#3502: Jun 14th 2013 at 12:35:00 PM

Oh they are, they're just, you know informing gamers.

It's almost like they have a magazine called Game Informer or something. tongue

I'm looking forward to reading the next issue, btw. Should be fun.

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#3503: Jun 14th 2013 at 12:39:29 PM

[up]

said magazine is the second most read magazine of all magazines.

This is why Gamestop holds the cards and not the other way around. Microsoft knows damned well they have to bow to Gamestop's whims or lose 90% od the casual gaming crowd instantly.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#3504: Jun 14th 2013 at 12:43:39 PM

Yeah Microsoft assumed Sony would do the exact same thing which meant they could go "Whatcha gonna do now huh?!"

Then Sony kiiiind of put the kaibosh on that.

Rumors have it Sony leaked rumors that it WAS going to use DRM too so Microsoft would do that.

Lopiny Since: May, 2011
#3505: Jun 14th 2013 at 12:44:26 PM

Then again, they might not know. They didn't get the xbone where it is through intelligent decisions, after all.

OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#3507: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:11:13 PM

[up][up][up] If that was true, it'd be a movie-level gambit.

edited 14th Jun '13 1:15:31 PM by Ninety

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
McSomeguy Since: Dec, 2010
#3508: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:13:08 PM

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But Sony made their policy on the matter known months before the Xbone was revealed. Microsoft knew what the competition was up to, why would they think they could get away with it? I smell publisher related shenanigans.

ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#3509: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:13:15 PM

All I do care about is games though.

Anything else I care about I can do on the laptop I'm typing this in on.

You are not alone.
CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#3510: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:18:39 PM

Not to mention the pastebin claims "some Sony team made it go viral" regarding the DRM.

"It's a conspiracy, guys! No, really, Sony's just trying to make us look bad!"

And it uses the "if we block used games we can make cheaper games!" argument, which was rebutted nicely by Mr. Sterling and Mr. Fils-Aime(sp?) in their own special ways. Comparing it to Steam also doesn't work, since (as many people have pointed out) Steam actually has competition.

OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#3511: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:20:40 PM

Steam is also a solely digital service since there isn't anything to trade in, and the stream of sales and great customer service overshadow it.

nyo ho ho
ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#3512: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:24:12 PM

What was it that someone said? "If you want to make games a service, at least make it a good service."

Origin and Games For Windows? Not good services.

You are not alone.
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#3513: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:26:20 PM

Steam competes because Valve said "let's help the little guys, the indie gamers". Even Valve admits that if they were to ever go under they'd patch Steam games to allow play. As Jim Sterling points out, the smaller indie developers are lower cost. If "God Help Us We're No Budget Games" makes a bad one, Steam as a whole doesn't suffer. The Xbone will need lots of indie games or some "Medal of Call Of Battlefield Ops" gun-bro shooter that has lots of people wanting to play it. Oh wait, the "realistic shooters" are tanking now, Danger Close studios just shuttered (after Medal Of Honor War Fighter tanked).. So no Call of Duty Dogs can save the Xbone.

Microsoft is losing this one. Windows 8 can be hacked the way we want it, people are working on unlocking phones too and unlocked tablets will follow.

So they though they could stick it to gamers and lock people into their service.

When Black Friday and Christmas roll around (along with whatever shopping days are big in Europe and Asia) and Xbone sales are in the tank, this console could be Microsoft's Dreamcast. Only sucky.

edited 14th Jun '13 1:31:58 PM by TairaMai

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#3514: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:48:43 PM

Now the standard Xbox One console isn't even in the top 50 on Amercian Amazon anymore.

edited 14th Jun '13 1:49:04 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#3515: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:49:33 PM

what about the Day One edition? Still holding the #2 spot?

ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#3516: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:50:26 PM

I thought it lost the #2 spot to the standard PS 4 edition. But the Launch PS 4 edition ran out of stock, so it might have dropped from #1.

You are not alone.
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#3517: Jun 14th 2013 at 1:51:28 PM

[up][up] Yeah, however the standard edition is at #52 right now while the standard PS 4 is in first and the launch version is sold at and holding in at #3.

[up] standard moved up to 1st while the sold out one dropped to 3rd.

edited 14th Jun '13 1:51:59 PM by doineedaname

Nettacki Since: Jan, 2010
#3518: Jun 14th 2013 at 3:51:38 PM

Even Valve admits that if they were to ever go under they'd patch Steam games to allow play.

I've searched high and wide for the source of this statement, but I can't find it. All I found were second-hand sources that *say* Valve said it, but not a statement directly from Valve themselves. Therefore, I have to take this claim with a grain of salt.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#3519: Jun 14th 2013 at 5:33:19 PM

I'm a US soldier, and as this article points out, the Xbox, the only currently supported American console, is far less soldier friendly than its Japanese competitors. Sucks for me if I get deployed and I want to get my Halo on when unwinding after a duty day.

edited 14th Jun '13 5:33:27 PM by Hashil

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#3520: Jun 14th 2013 at 5:38:08 PM

[up]I've said the same thing. I did a tour of Korea and am currently back in the states. Thanks to the Xbone being "always on", no taking it on TDY or tossing it in the car on leave. IS Korea on the list? I see most ADA in Japan not liking the Xbone.

Oh and I've borrowed stuff from buddies and waited to get the Xbox One (back when it was the "720") and a PS 4. I'm getting a PS 3 and maybe a PS 4 next year instead.

edited 14th Jun '13 5:40:22 PM by TairaMai

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#3522: Jun 14th 2013 at 6:38:24 PM

Wow, the Xbone day one edition(tm) is #2, but aside from a racing game, everything else in the top 10 is PS 3 / PS 4 related. And the "Day one" is 30 Nov for the Xbox One "day one" and 31 December for the PS 4.

edited 14th Jun '13 6:38:51 PM by TairaMai

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#3523: Jun 14th 2013 at 7:47:17 PM

Ugh, I was wanting to get one after I got a PS4 because I could see what Microsoft was aiming for, but this is fucking stupid:

If you're banned from Xbox Live you lose all access to your games and the licenses to them are forfeited.

You can get banned for as simple a reason as having an "offensive" gamertag.

edited 14th Jun '13 7:47:42 PM by Completion

OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#3524: Jun 14th 2013 at 7:49:10 PM

I won't buy any console that doesn't allow me to continue my online escapades as Richard Licker.

nyo ho ho
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#3525: Jun 14th 2013 at 7:52:39 PM

Huh, so the Scunthorpe Problem will bite MS in the kiester...

edited 14th Jun '13 7:53:04 PM by TairaMai

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....

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