All right, I'll save the anti-Americanism for another time.
(In my area, the Book of Mormon is usually in with the Bibles. Tao is all over the place though—I found Tao Te Ching in "Philosophy" and "The Book of Chuang Tzu" in Classics)
Anyway, dumb reasons for hating anime... Well, one I don't think I mentioned the first time is the attitude that anime is a "fad" that "all the cool kids are into," like it hasn't been around for decades or something. In general, I hate people who react badly to something just because its in vogue (though I realize that's a hypocritical stance to take, considering). Then again though, outside of Japan it probably is a fad.
edited 14th Mar '11 12:16:35 AM by MoeDantes
visit my blog!Yeah Sabbo. At first I thought it was just some mistake, but the books remained in that location for weeks and new books on the subject would be moved there at times. Islam I can understand a bit more, but Mormonism...really? Maybe it's due to lack of shelf space?
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah^^ Thank goodness for things like Clannad then.
Imoutos are the best! Follow at your own risk. Tumblr.I think the problem is that Western countries tend to see anything animated as being for kids, and so most anime/manga licensed in Western countries are those targeted towards kids/teenagers, i.e. the shonen/shoujo demographic. Anime/manga targeted towards more mature demographics, i.e. josei/seinen, tend not to get exposure. It's a bit better online, but shonen/shoujo manga definitely dominate in terms of what gets scanlated and exposed to English-speaking circles.
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My mom works at a bookstore and the primary reason for that split is that the company can't decide what section to put them in. They have the same problem with a authors that combine romance, mystery, and fantasy in most of their books. The same author could be in three (or more) different parts of the store even though the books they write are quite simular.
...and this really should have been addressed in the Lit section, but o-well.
Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!Clannad excels at what it is, which is basically a soap opera. But if that's not what people are looking for, they're not going to be interested. Moreover, it's long — 48 half-hour episodes, and it takes more than thirty to get to the part that really distinguishes it from other anime in the genre. For them to sit through that much is a lot to ask if they're not a fan to begin with — you're basically gambling on the (admittedly good) Fuko arc to hook them.
Instead, I would suggest a Satoshi Kon movie. Probably not Paprika unless they loved Inception, but Millennium Actress is nearly a sure thing, and Tokyo Godfathers is about as approachable as anime movies get. Perfect Blue can wait until after they've managed to separate the medium from the demographic in their minds.
The exact Japanese term for the phenomenon? Probably not. But if you're using Clannad to show people how anime can be mature, you're likely to have some difficulty getting past the legion of doe-eyed schoolgirls with the cutesy mannerisms.
I'd advise testing your potential audience's moe tolerances first with something a little milder.
edited 14th Mar '11 1:50:46 PM by Iaculus
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Moe is not a term non-anime fans know at all. I certainly didn't until I had it force fed to me through Lucky Star.
Yeah they may be put off by "why that one girl poorly-disguises herself as 6 of Tomoya's potential Love Interest s". :P
To be fair though:
1) Soaps are fairly popular in the U.S. (there's even a cable channel dedicated to them)
2) The first half of Clannad is actually fairly complete in and of itself, so you can stop there if they're not interested enough to continue into After Story.
3) "Getting to the part that distinguishes it from the rest of the genre" might not be an issue to people who aren't that familiar with anime's take on the genre to begin with.
"It's generic"
Especially considering "Generic" is part of a Generic Log of complaints nearly everyone falls back on to describe something they don't like, as if every show needs to have 50 subversion in every episode and go out of it's way to tell you "THIS IS A DECONSTRUCTION HAHA ARE YOU FEELING THE INTELLIGENCE!"
One of my older friends freaked out recently because of their inhumanly 'big googly eyes' and declared, "How can you take this show seriously when their eyes looks so childish and biiiiggg compared to the rest of their face?" and I was like
Most of my school friends are not really familiar with anime and are more in tune with western tv shows and local Soap Operas
I feel like I'm the only one in my class who watches anime sometimes. Only one person I know regularly watches online anime with me and that is my mum. So when I introduced one of my school friends to anime, that was her reaction. I haven't asked her whether she watches Disney cartoons/Looney Tunes though, must ask next time
edited 16th Mar '11 8:46:57 PM by sabrina_diamond
In an anime, I'll be the Tsundere Dark Magical Girl who likes purple MY own profile is actually HERE!Well on the other hand, if her complaint was "how can you take this seriously" then using Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse as counterexamples might not be a good idea.
I mean, you're not exactly supposed to take them seriously.
visit my blog!To be fair, I can see the excessively oversized eyes of, say, Key Visual Arts falling into the Uncanny Valley for some people. I was cetainly struck with a touch of unnameable, crawling horror when I decided to give Clannad a go.
What's precedent ever done for us?

Islam is slightly more borderline, sure, but Mormonism was founded in America. And they were both based on Christianity (albeit to very different degrees).