The idea that comics do actually invert, subvert, parody, lampshade, deconstruct and reconstruct the superhero genre, the thing you've just seen/read probably isn't doing anything that hasn't been thought of by comic writers already.
I don't actually get tired of providing specific information about them, even clarifying whoose Marvel and whoose DC.
Am I a good man or a bad man?An example I think illustrates a lot of these points quite well is from the film Unbreakable. It's a great movie but there's one line I hate. It's Jacksons narrating before a paticularly moving scene.
"Now for the part that isn't in the comic books"
But obviously this movie can.
It's the misconception that comics can't or at least haven't so far shown the level of depth that other media have. Maybe films have different strengths than comics but I have my opinion as to which is best suited to getting across a characters inner thoughts and emotions.
Back on topic I sort of hate explaining the concept that this is an industry. Some people have the idea that Marvel and DC aren't as conceded about making money than other creative industrys. So no they can't just swap Batman and Captain America. You have have to employ people to make these things. People who have even been into a comic book shop sem to think that "Stan Lee still writes all the Marvel ones". They seem to at least undersand that there are hundreds of different Marvel comics so either think they take 30 seconds tp make or we all just buy the same issues overand over again.
Am I a good man or a bad man?Not that I dont think what you did was awesome, but why only the superhero books? The thing I have to tell people is that comics arent exclusively for superheroes. You have stuff like Maus, A Contract with God, V for Vendetta.
Theres sex and death and human grime in monochrome for one thin dime and at least the trains all run on time but they dont go anywhere.Or WE 3!
Though I don't actually think comics are just as good as books. Kinda like how Alan Moore thinks a movie adaption could never be the same. They're very different things, it would be very hard for a comic book to do the same thing a good novel does (to the point where it probably wouldn't be a comic) and it would be impossible for a novel to do what a goood comic does. I mean, in what other medium can you have multiple narration at the same time and to the same level as comics? What medium captures instants in time like comics (photographic stories are closely related to comics so they don't count.) So they're not 'as good' you may as well say that a cheetah is as good as a lion.
edited 13th Apr '11 4:13:30 AM by Gvzbgul
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The writing is great, but don't get too attached to the characters.
I've actually found that the inverse of the usual attitude is more common with people I know, so I often find myself informing them that, no, comics aren't all gloom and doom because they got "hijacked by insecure fanboy wankers" (as one chap called them). They can still be appropriate for kids.
The Dark Age is effectively over. I'm rather peeved at having to reiterate this.
Maybe so. Perhaps referring the whole aesthetic of gratuitous sex and violence associated with the Dark Age would be more accurate? I don't know. Regardless, the most common attitude towards comic books among people I know seems to be that they're not worthwhile because there's no joy in them; it's nothing but unrelenting grimness. I don't think that's necessarily the case.
Well Marvel has said they are going to kill off a major character every year now, just for the shock value. Aside from how stupid it would be thinking something incremental would remain a shock, it shows they are using death and doom for drama, so this perception is the fault of the comics industry for maintaining the attitude that cause the dark age.
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Please be joking about Marvel. Please.
It would combine my two biggest gripes with the company into one.
1. Having deaths that they know won't stick.
2. The mechanical insistence of forcing MAJOR EVENTS down our throats.
If writers were told to focus on telling good stories rather than ones that are superficially more intense, then left to their own devices things would probably be better. I mean there's no way these deaths are going to be genuinly shocking, especially to someone in my position, and I doubt that they'll be well written either.
edited 25th Apr '11 3:48:55 PM by C0mraid
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I believe I've found the trope involved: Angst Aversion.
edited 25th Apr '11 4:10:25 PM by TheGloomer

This one was left intentionally ambiguous as of "Origin", though.