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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
#426: Feb 8th 2014 at 2:53:15 PM

[up] So they get sabotaged too? No wonder.

I also don't think the average person who walks into a bookstore's comic section is going to want any of the things I mentioned in my last post (and the post before that). After all, what the hell would they make of R. Crumb or Harvey Pekar?

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#427: Feb 8th 2014 at 3:09:09 PM

Indeed. But average people are buying Saga, Chew, Boxers and Saints, Y the Last Man, and Fables with some regularity. (Transmetropolitan is just behind all of thise, in my experience.) These are all strong sellers in trade sales - hell, the majority of the top 50 trades sold in 2013 is a mix of indies and Batman.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
#428: Feb 8th 2014 at 3:13:08 PM

There is some hope...

But if you're doing a more out-there type of comic, you're screwed, I guess.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#429: Feb 10th 2014 at 4:49:02 PM

We don't talk about who would win because we necessarily want to read those stories, we talk about it just because the topic can be fun to discuss in of itself. When we actually read comics, we want a coherent plot and do not really like when people fight for stupid reasons, such as Civil War or overtly contrived reasons, such as Wolverine hitting on Avenger's wives and stabbing them for protesting.

That is not to say they can never be done well, kept in character, making both narrative and logical sense but fight scenes need a little something to stand on.

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Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
Ghosts N' Stuff Remix
#430: Feb 12th 2014 at 5:17:52 AM

"I don't think your eight year old nephew would fully appreciate Arkham Asylum A Serious House On Serious Earth, sorry."

"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."
Notoyax17 When all you have is a blowtorch... Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
When all you have is a blowtorch...
#431: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:45:04 AM

"Uh, no. They didn't make Mary Jane's hair blond and OOC for the Amazing Spider-Man movie. That's Gwen Stacy. ...No they didn't make her up, she's a legitimate character in the book."

"Yo, those kids are straight up liars, man. All I told them to do was run product. And by product, I mean chewing gum."
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#432: Feb 12th 2014 at 9:50:01 AM

[up]Kinda understandable. She's been seriously, legitimately dead, no take-backs, for 40 years now.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#434: Feb 12th 2014 at 8:16:24 PM

Hawkeye is awesome, Ant Man is awesome, and anyone who trash-talks Aquaman risks having the Pacific Ocean rammed up their ass.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#435: Feb 12th 2014 at 8:18:14 PM

Here's one I have to tell my mom a lot.

"Superman and Batman are NOT AVENGERS."

My various fanfics.
Anteres Since: May, 2010
#436: Feb 13th 2014 at 4:34:30 AM

[up] But Hawkeye WAS in the Justice League (Pre-Nu52 anyway).

Notoyax17 When all you have is a blowtorch... Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
When all you have is a blowtorch...
#437: Feb 14th 2014 at 10:50:25 AM

[up] The same Hawkeye? I can't tell if that's ridiculous or ridiculously awesome.

"Yo, those kids are straight up liars, man. All I told them to do was run product. And by product, I mean chewing gum."
TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#438: Feb 14th 2014 at 10:55:11 AM

The same Hawkeye, via one of the alt-timelines in JLA/Avengers.

crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#440: Feb 15th 2014 at 11:44:24 AM

[up] Yeah, in that timeline, Hawkeye was Arrow's Always Someone Better (since Hawkeye was the one who ended up with Black Canary instead of Ollie).

LizardBite Shameless Self-Promoter from Two Galaxies Over Since: Jan, 2001
TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#442: Feb 15th 2014 at 12:03:18 PM

Sadly, it only lasted for two pages of JLA-Avengers #3.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#443: Feb 15th 2014 at 1:26:43 PM

JLA Avengers can kiss my dick. Amalgam Universe all the way, bitches!!

tongue

edited 15th Feb '14 1:27:36 PM by Watchtower

Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
Ghosts N' Stuff Remix
#444: Feb 15th 2014 at 1:30:59 PM

[up] The costumes for the Amalgam Universe were a lot uglier than I remembered...

What did The Joker cross with again?

"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#445: Feb 15th 2014 at 1:32:14 PM

Sabretooth.

JLA Avengers was better because it wasn't a popularity contest universe.

edited 15th Feb '14 1:50:03 PM by SonOfSharknado

My various fanfics.
C0mraid from Here and there Since: Aug, 2010
#446: Feb 15th 2014 at 1:47:45 PM

JLA/Avengers was great. In a way it was kind of a swan song to those two teams, they've never been so good since, JLA has been rebooted and I really feel Avengers lost a lot of it's identity after Dissassembled(might have regained it with Now, haven't read it).

More on topic, albeit something I encounter reading articles than I do on conversation. Regarding films: "No, that quite intelligent was from the comics, and that silly bit was invented by the director."

Am I a good man or a bad man?
Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#447: Feb 15th 2014 at 11:08:25 PM

Here are some things that annoy me:

"Comic Books are just for kids" - No, they are not. Just read any comic book from Image and Vertigo and you'll see how mature they can get.

"There's no black superheroes" - Yes, there are. There's Cyborg, Storm, Black Panther, Blade, Static Shock, actually a lot of them. It's not their fault that Hollywood rarely showcase these characters on the big screen.

"Wolverine is the only X-Men character that matters" - Well, yeah, Wolverine is one of the most popular characters in the X-Men, but there are way more X-Men characters that are just as important as Wolverine. Again, the fault of Hollywood not really showcasing the other characters more prominently.

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#448: Feb 16th 2014 at 12:40:52 AM

"There's no black superheroes" - Yes, there are. There's Cyborg, Storm, Black Panther, Blade, Static Shock, actually a lot of them. It's not their fault that Hollywood rarely showcase these characters on the big screen.
Can we really pin that solely on Hollywood? I mean, none of their solo books tend to pan out. Hell, Cyborg is literally the only JL member without his own book right now.

Honestly, between Teen Titans, Static Shock, and the Blade films, Hollywood tends to treat these characters better than the companies that print their books.

edited 16th Feb '14 12:41:54 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#449: Feb 16th 2014 at 12:44:19 AM

And John Stewart on JL made a big enough splash that most of the non-comics-reading public was confused that the movie GL was white.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#450: Feb 16th 2014 at 12:49:19 AM

Honestly, as shit as movies and TV generally are about representation, comic books are lagging behind even them. It's kind of embarrassing.

...well, DC is, anyway. Marvel is steadily improving.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

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