Indeed. But average people are buying Saga, Chew, Boxers and Saints, Y the Last Man, and Fables with some regularity. (Transmetropolitan is just behind all of thise, in my experience.) These are all strong sellers in trade sales - hell, the majority of the top 50 trades sold in 2013 is a mix of indies and Batman.
We don't talk about who would win because we necessarily want to read those stories, we talk about it just because the topic can be fun to discuss in of itself. When we actually read comics, we want a coherent plot and do not really like when people fight for stupid reasons, such as Civil War or overtly contrived reasons, such as Wolverine hitting on Avenger's wives and stabbing them for protesting.
That is not to say they can never be done well, kept in character, making both narrative and logical sense but fight scenes need a little something to stand on.
Buldogue's lawyer"I don't think your eight year old nephew would fully appreciate Arkham Asylum A Serious House On Serious Earth, sorry."
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy.""Uh, no. They didn't make Mary Jane's hair blond and OOC for the Amazing Spider-Man movie. That's Gwen Stacy. ...No they didn't make her up, she's a legitimate character in the book."
"Yo, those kids are straight up liars, man. All I told them to do was run product. And by product, I mean chewing gum."
Kinda understandable. She's been seriously, legitimately dead, no take-backs, for 40 years now.
something tells me Hawkeye and Green Arrow wouldn't get along.
All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Yeah, in that timeline, Hawkeye was Arrow's Always Someone Better (since Hawkeye was the one who ended up with Black Canary instead of Ollie).
JLA Avengers can kiss my dick. Amalgam Universe all the way, bitches!!
edited 15th Feb '14 1:27:36 PM by Watchtower
The costumes for the Amalgam Universe were a lot uglier than I remembered...
What did The Joker cross with again?
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."Sabretooth.
JLA Avengers was better because it wasn't a popularity contest universe.
edited 15th Feb '14 1:50:03 PM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.JLA/Avengers was great. In a way it was kind of a swan song to those two teams, they've never been so good since, JLA has been rebooted and I really feel Avengers lost a lot of it's identity after Dissassembled(might have regained it with Now, haven't read it).
More on topic, albeit something I encounter reading articles than I do on conversation. Regarding films: "No, that quite intelligent was from the comics, and that silly bit was invented by the director."
Am I a good man or a bad man?Here are some things that annoy me:
"Comic Books are just for kids" - No, they are not. Just read any comic book from Image and Vertigo and you'll see how mature they can get.
"There's no black superheroes" - Yes, there are. There's Cyborg, Storm, Black Panther, Blade, Static Shock, actually a lot of them. It's not their fault that Hollywood rarely showcase these characters on the big screen.
"Wolverine is the only X-Men character that matters" - Well, yeah, Wolverine is one of the most popular characters in the X-Men, but there are way more X-Men characters that are just as important as Wolverine. Again, the fault of Hollywood not really showcasing the other characters more prominently.
I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!Honestly, between Teen Titans, Static Shock, and the Blade films, Hollywood tends to treat these characters better than the companies that print their books.
edited 16th Feb '14 12:41:54 AM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Honestly, as shit as movies and TV generally are about representation, comic books are lagging behind even them. It's kind of embarrassing.
...well, DC is, anyway. Marvel is steadily improving.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

I also don't think the average person who walks into a bookstore's comic section is going to want any of the things I mentioned in my last post (and the post before that). After all, what the hell would they make of R. Crumb or Harvey Pekar?
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."