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ArtisticPlatypus Resident pretentious dickwad from the bottom of my heart. Since: Jul, 2010
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#1: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:09:58 PM

The current image, while demonstrating the trope, is an IMO unnecessary overlap with The Blank. It's not really a big problem, but I there are so many great demonstrators of this trope that a better image should be available.
V: 1 2 3
Rorshach: 1 2
The Spirit: 1 2
Or perhaps the blank mask is a bonus, making the current image more template-y. What do you think?

EDIT: Just saw that someone mentioned (page 4 of the Cool Mask IPD) this page having a history of image pickin' discussions. Should I just go ahead and flame myself?

edited 28th Feb '11 1:20:31 PM by ArtisticPlatypus

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#2: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:19:43 PM

V wears a cloak, not a coat. But I do think a mask-looking mask would be better, Also, The Crimson Avenger:

edited 28th Feb '11 1:22:23 PM by Ghilz

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#3: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:24:40 PM

I like that one. He looks like the trope.

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#4: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:33:27 PM

I'm happy with red guy.

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ArtisticPlatypus Resident pretentious dickwad from the bottom of my heart. Since: Jul, 2010
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#5: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:34:06 PM

I'd say your Crimson Avenger image trumps all of mine, except possibly Rorschach 2. Rorschach image looks more badass and has an (IMO) less distracting background. On the other hand Crimson Avenger has a more generic mask, and is thus a more 'neautral' example. Also, Rorschach is already overrepresented on the internet.

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#6: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:38:26 PM

Yeah, the domino mask is the only thing that really makes him better than Rorschach. The red guy is just so 100% perfectly this archetype, and the image is very clear.

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#7: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:43:09 PM

Crimson Avenger's great. I also like The Spirit. Rorschach's mask is weird, so I'd prefer he stick to ImageLinks.Coat Hat Mask.

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#8: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:44:47 PM

That Crimson Avenger pic is perfect.

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#10: Feb 28th 2011 at 2:27:26 PM

[up] That's good too.

edited 28th Feb '11 2:27:42 PM by troacctid

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#11: Feb 28th 2011 at 2:29:56 PM

A focus on the Green Hornet would be better. It's hard to tell Kato has a coat at all

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#12: Feb 28th 2011 at 2:33:23 PM

I like Crimson Avenger, particularly because he's pretty obscure even among comics fans, but exemplifies the trope (and was basically created to rip off the Green Hornet.)

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#13: Feb 28th 2011 at 2:36:16 PM

(and was basically created to rip off the Green Hornet.)

Not sure of that. GH started as Radio plays in 1936 (and did not move from local to national before 1938), CA started in 1938. While it's possible, its worth remembering that attires arent that noticeable in radio plays. GH made it's first visual appearance in the 40s

edited 28th Feb '11 2:37:07 PM by Ghilz

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#14: Feb 28th 2011 at 2:37:44 PM

[up]Good point, but Don Markstein at Toonopedia basically says he was a GH clone, and he's usually pretty reliable on that sort of thing.

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#15: Feb 28th 2011 at 2:45:06 PM

[up] Technically he says the character share alot (and I do think it possible that one inspired the other, in terms of theme and origins. maybe the outfit thing just kinda happened by coincidence. over 70 years after the fact, it's hard to say).

Anywho, back on topic: Crowner time?

edited 28th Feb '11 2:45:56 PM by Ghilz

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#16: Feb 28th 2011 at 3:04:59 PM

I'm not sure why I'm doing this, as I'm not actually a fan of the Green Hornet, but here are a few more pics of him that could work after some cropping: 1 2 3 4

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#17: Feb 28th 2011 at 3:19:24 PM

The outfit would have been pretty standard for any character who wasn't a "costumed superhero". In the 30's a hat, gloves and a coat were expected attire for the man-on-the-street. I doubt that CA was deliberately styled in costume after Green Hornet; it's more likely that there were two styles of "superhero" at that point —costumed (like Superman and The Phantom, and non-costumed, like The Shadow, The Green Hornet, and Zorro, who wore "normal clothes" for the setting, but obscured their face somewhat (since The Shadow didn't wear a mask — he wore a scarf pulled up high over his lower face.)

I like #3 and # 4, there, Artic.

edited 28th Feb '11 3:20:33 PM by Madrugada

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#19: Feb 28th 2011 at 4:56:36 PM

Either Ghilz's Green Hornet or Platypus's 4th gets my vote. I like the clear head on shot with Ghilz's but its just a little dark to tell if it's a mask vs shadow. Platypus's 4 I have no problem with.

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#20: Feb 28th 2011 at 4:59:26 PM

Of the flashy variety there is Tuxedo mask from Sailor Moon.

[1][2][3][4]

edited 28th Feb '11 5:01:58 PM by Raso

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#21: Feb 28th 2011 at 5:16:08 PM

Tuxedo Mask has a cloak along with a jacket. It could be confusing.

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#22: Feb 28th 2011 at 5:19:37 PM

Yeah, he's not a good example of this trope. Yes, he wears all the basics, but he's crossed to far into the costume idea.

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#23: Feb 28th 2011 at 5:20:13 PM

[up][up] There are two variations to this flashy with a cape or just a coat.

On the other hand, some characters combine a tuxedo (or even white tie and tails) and a mask with no intention of blending in; they just prefer formalwear for its intimidating panache. Often, this type will wear a cape instead of the coat.

edited 28th Feb '11 5:21:23 PM by Raso

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#24: Feb 28th 2011 at 5:24:31 PM

Yes, but that's the variant. Not the base trope or how it most commonly manifests.

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#25: Feb 28th 2011 at 5:44:45 PM

Personally I think the Tuxedo Mask variant is common enough that we should show both types.

Unless we want to split off Cape Hat Mask from this.

edited 28th Feb '11 5:52:24 PM by Raso

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