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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5876: Oct 14th 2011 at 10:57:22 AM

Star's approached me with an idea that I like rather well for the plot. If no one minds me nominating myself for GM of the new ward, I'd be happy to run it.

It's been fun.
Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5877: Oct 14th 2011 at 11:06:39 AM

I don't mind (granted, I don't even know any of you)

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#5878: Oct 14th 2011 at 11:26:29 AM

I also nominate you Savant. But I'm changing my powers again.

edited 14th Oct '11 11:26:47 AM by RhymeBeat

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neobowman つ ◕_◕ ༽つ HELIX from Unidentified Proxy Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#5879: Oct 14th 2011 at 1:33:03 PM

I nominate Savant.

Would you be okay with Nazuna in the new RP? Aka, antagonistic MG who enjoys watching other M Gs fall into despair? I know it's kind of against the themes but I like her a lot.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5881: Oct 14th 2011 at 4:51:44 PM

Nazuna would be fine. She can't harvest Grief Seeds anymore, but killstealing other Magical Girls' Demons would work as well, I should think.

Looks good to me, Rhyme.

edited 14th Oct '11 4:52:01 PM by RedSavant

It's been fun.
Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5882: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:20:00 PM

I'm rather curious as to what kind of plot Star's cooked up, but perhaps I shouldn't poke into it too much~

I'm in full support of Savant becoming GM again. :3c

That is all she needed. That is all... Her dreams of seeing the world have become her strength, and lifts her wings.
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#5883: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:32:05 PM

Could I get clarification on exactly how demons work?

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5884: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:42:41 PM

^As far as I'm concerned, here's how it works. (Please read this, everyone; this'll be my reference point during the RP.)

'Miasma' is the ambient despair of the world. Magical Girls and Incubators can see it; normal humans cannot, but they can sense its effects, which include apathy, melancholy, crushing despair, and suicidal thoughts as exposure continues or the density of the miasma increases. In places where the miasma swirls thickly, such as population centers, Demons can arise when the miasma reaches a critical density or starts swirling fast enough.

Demons are manifestations of miasma. They are faceless, egoless representations of despair; where Witches were clusters of intensely personal darkness, Demons have no personality and no goals. Their mere presence, however, is enough to thicken miasma and drive humans to suicide. They feed off human souls, and more powerful Demons produce their own miasma. Demons are able to work together - as they lack ego, there is no question of one Demon refusing to work with another, even over a human soul. The presence of more than one Demon in one place multiplies the aura of despair, miasma production, and the power of each Demon.

It's been fun.
Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5885: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:52:18 PM

Hmm.

If they pop up near population centres, though, how will we fight them without being spotted by a civilian and breaking the masquerade?

Demons may be able to produce their own "demonrealm" in large enough numbers(?), though: after Sayaka's suicide attack in episode 12, the scene seems to shift and dissolve back to the train station the same way a Witchrealm dissolves when a Witch is defeated. It may also simply be an effect of the fire as a result of the attack (since heated air does bend light and all), but then the train station wasn't scorched, soo.

That is all she needed. That is all... Her dreams of seeing the world have become her strength, and lifts her wings.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5886: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:56:37 PM

^That's true. I think Demons will produce their own sort of barrier, but they won't be personalized like the Witchspaces - just an alternate version of whereever they show up.

It's been fun.
Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5887: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:01:31 PM

I was actually imagining a Demonrealm to be that great desert at the end of episode 12 (would also make a cheap explanation as to where that desert came from to begin with), but "alternate version of the current location" sounds better now that I've heard it. At least we won't have to see the same place over and over again.

That is all she needed. That is all... Her dreams of seeing the world have become her strength, and lifts her wings.
Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5888: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:06:48 PM

[up] I agree with the demon spaces. Though, we'd need more clarification about it. (or maybe for a twist, you not tell us and the M Gs have to find out on their own)

So, demons aren't well...sentient and can't think for themselves? I suppose more to say it would be similar to the "zombie" type. It's not bad, but it does seem to get a certain frame of mind on how they behave / progress.


Specification question time...

Also, do demons as they get stronger differentiate from the mook demons? In the cases of either a natural development of gaining power or something they gain when they consume enough humans (or Magical girls, if they eat a certain MG they gain traits similar to her?)

edited 14th Oct '11 6:09:50 PM by Nicktendonick

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#5889: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:09:09 PM

Yeah having only one variety of demons would get dull after a while. A friend of mine suggested demon super types based on the Seven Deadly Sins. Is that workable?

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Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5890: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:14:59 PM

I'm not that sure. Honestly, Sloth is connected to Despair.

As in you do not act, to give up and surrender and choose not to do something when you can. Also not to care, if Tvtropes has something to say about it.

It is a good idea (and we can throw out what I just said) because that is a cool idea to make some of them special.

Though, it might mean they take on some sort of mind if they truly want to become their sin.. If demons like sentience, then they can't really split towards the seven deadly sins. Unless we can tie their actions to a certain thing (like wrath destroying, gluttony consuming, Envy pulling a The Thing and becoming its victims, Avarice is the super kidnapper and horder, and pride consuming it fellow prides till one's the strongest)

I say we save that for something non-demon related (because my money's on Star cooking up something like that involves non-demons enemies.)

edited 14th Oct '11 6:20:44 PM by Nicktendonick

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5891: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:24:35 PM

I'm not sure about the Seven Deadly Sins, because that's really much more strongly connected to Western thought and religion than the majority of the symbolism regarding Witches and stuff. (Yes, there was Faust, but a lot of the major issues regarding the Witch cycle are almost Shinto in nature.) I do like the idea of more powerful Demons, though - but rest assured, we are not turning Demons into Menos Grande here.

It's been fun.
Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5892: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:26:07 PM

I don't have any serious input (besides that I think it might be workable), but

Lust Demons.

:V

That is all she needed. That is all... Her dreams of seeing the world have become her strength, and lifts her wings.
Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5893: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:31:10 PM

And we'll have a special bad end where it Lust demons destroyed the world, but everyone was cool with that because of...well...you know.

though, them amping romantic feelings would be fun for shipping (and bad if there's a Yan-yan in the crowd.

(By the way, how'd you alttext link Bleach? I always need two uppercase letters to do it. how'd you do it?) And of course we won't do Menos Grandes,they're weak and were totally So Last Season.

edited 14th Oct '11 6:33:24 PM by Nicktendonick

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5894: Oct 14th 2011 at 6:33:42 PM

^If you want to link something that's only one word, use curly braces - [[ {{ Demonstration }} it would be formatted like this]].

It's been fun.
maxyrama Since: Apr, 2011
#5895: Oct 14th 2011 at 7:22:11 PM

Late! But Savant I love that idea! I'm really glad we're exploring the Demons. Gives us a chance to spin things in our own direction and thus make our own canon. Sort of. :V

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5897: Oct 14th 2011 at 7:25:27 PM

Wel, let's get a roll call of the interested people. The weekends are really busy for me, but I can probably get something written up by next Tuesday. I know it's a bit of a wait, but...

It's been fun.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
neobowman つ ◕_◕ ༽つ HELIX from Unidentified Proxy Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#5899: Oct 14th 2011 at 7:26:27 PM

I'm interested.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you

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