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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#5851: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:04:00 PM

I posted a response in the signup thread. But for convenience.

Basically if she wished she could turn an object within her weight limitations into a simple shape (like a sword, club, or whip) for a sixth of her magic and a more complicated object (like a simple machine) for half her magic.

edited 13th Oct '11 10:06:00 PM by RhymeBeat

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5852: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:09:54 PM

^I see. So, a metal pole into a more formidable weapon, that sort of thing? That seems to be a rather simple Magical Girl ability, though... Mami does it for Sayaka at least once, and our own girls have used it before. You sure that's all you want?

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#5853: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:12:14 PM

Hmm... Maybe I could buff up her firepower? The RP I originally wrote Vera for was much more strict with preventing overpowered characters. Or I can make her wish ability stronger. Added flight and superhuman speed. Now in combination with her ability to fly she could say create something in the air and drop it on her opponent.

edited 13th Oct '11 10:16:57 PM by RhymeBeat

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5854: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:20:02 PM

^Flight and speed and creation might be a little much.

If you're going to err from the power levels shown in the series, go for more powerful - or read through the Imaizumi girls' battle against Belle or the Yamanaka girls' battle against Caroline. However, know that the Witches were a lot more powerful, too - Kyoen City is not a nice place, and I was hoping to do something about the fact that it was some sort of nexus of power, but...

edited 13th Oct '11 10:21:22 PM by RedSavant

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Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5855: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:24:17 PM

While you guys tweak Carol's power level, I'll get to typing my own entry :V

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#5856: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:24:57 PM

[up][up] Is that the new town? And I buffed Vera in general now.

edited 13th Oct '11 10:25:16 PM by RhymeBeat

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5857: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:27:03 PM

Yeah, I've been thinking it over and flight is too much. None of the other girls we've seen can do that. When I said 'more powerful', I just mean that the girls heal faster and can do more of that weapon-spam bit Mami could, and the Witches are more despair-inducing; they show up in population centers and are generally more aggressive. It doesn't mean Vera gets a bunch of powers, it just means the ones she has will be stronger than the average on the show.

^No, Kyoen is the large city that Imaizumi, Yamanaka and Fujiwara are wards of - like Akihabara and Ikebukuro are wards of Tokyo. Making them all part of a larger city allowed us to set up for crossovers if we wanted to.

edited 13th Oct '11 10:27:56 PM by RedSavant

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#5858: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:29:36 PM

OK. I'll get rid of the flight but keep the laser gun at it's current power level and what of the speed?

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5859: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:33:43 PM

What connection does it have to her wish?

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#5860: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:35:19 PM

That's a point. Maybe I should just leave it at the summoning?

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5861: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:42:01 PM

You can leave it at the summoning, or you can change up her power, if you like - you'd just have to alter her wish, as well. Like I said, summoning weapons and boosting the attributes of existing stuff are already common Magical Girl powers; I don't want you to be entirely helpless.

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#5862: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:43:59 PM

Hmm... I'll think of this tomorrow. Getting late.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#5863: Oct 13th 2011 at 10:49:12 PM

Same here.

Also, sorry if I've been sending mixed messages; the 'more powerful' thing was never explicitly stated, it just seemed to happen, and I was trying to run with it before the wards all shut down. If we do keep that on in the post-Madokami RP, let me clarify: it's more like a general stat boost to all Demons and Magical Girls in Kyoen City, not new or more powers or anything like that.

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Starbound2 Since: Jan, 2001
#5864: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:15:06 PM

Hmm.

Tiny, small idea.

If we are indeed starting a new ward, can we be a beach-side ward of Kyoen? I dunno; just remembering "beach episode" plans that didn't got through.

Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5865: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:21:17 PM

Well, why not? There's nothing that says "no you cannot be beachside ward" around, and it should be fun~

Let's make an ocean-faring tentacle Demon whi-*shot*

We still need to construct at least a basic plot, though.

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Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5866: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:25:55 PM

Also, a thought, if we can do things our own way, what if we actually have the demons beginning to change? Some start consuming others or cannibalize themselves (aka like Hollows), or humans with great enough despair if they stick around them long enough they begin to change, or at least once they consume enough despair they gain some sentience, or someone figured out how to manipulate them and is using them to their own adjenda

I'd prefer the idea that all these MG's start realizing the demons are beginning to organize and work together, forcing the M Gs to do the same if they want to survive (and you know, figure out why).

Of course, you could always still have evil magical girls as villains. Like that Magical girl who's a serial killer for example. She'd be a semi-decent villain. If she still became evil in a post-world, and her soul gem was still cracked, she'd still continue her MO of getting girls to become M Gs, then kill them (because they didn't wish for what she wanted them to wish for).

Yea...I do concede to your points on this. You need something as the big bad, at witches can at drive the plot (despite not being Big Bads). I apologize for any problems I made...

It's all in the writing I think.


And that sounds quite nice, having a beachside to whatever ward. You can have a couple of beach episodes, and make it a port town on the coast which thrives on trade. (and use it as a plot point. There could be something that's being exported, or something that's being imported.)

edited 13th Oct '11 11:29:39 PM by Nicktendonick

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#5867: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:40:57 PM

Oh hey, a newcomer on a holiday

I'd like to think that there's a villain who can somehow influence the Demons and make them congregate, perhaps they might not have full control though.

[down]All I shall say is that had been a horrible grinding sound, then things just moved and before you know it, blood everywhere and lots of pain and screaming.

edited 13th Oct '11 11:48:49 PM by AceOfScarabs

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Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5868: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:46:18 PM

I hope the escalator accident didn't involve rubber clogs. :V

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Starbound2 Since: Jan, 2001
#5869: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:53:34 PM

^^ I think that kind of villain kind of goes against the feel of the setting though. Madoka Magica was more about the struggle against a harsh and unjust system. While the system is tweaked to be more fair, having a sort of centralized antagonist doesn't quite fit, I think.

Rather than having a villain in the middle of everything, I'd prefer having it be more like... there being something residual about Kyoen that indirectly influenced the strength of Witches, Magical Girls, and now the Demons. Something that would remain unsolved, even by the great influence of Madokami.

Maybe something in Kyoen's early history...

edited 13th Oct '11 11:53:56 PM by Starbound2

Midreus Newbie Drifter from Filgaia Since: Mar, 2011
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#5870: Oct 13th 2011 at 11:58:51 PM

In the beginning, there was Gen Urobuchi... and the rest is history.

Jokes aside, that sounds like an interesting idea. Perhaps it's some forgotten device left by one of the other Incubators (maybe an insane one, that way Kyubey might not know about it... unless we want him to?) a couple thousand years ago?

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Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5871: Oct 14th 2011 at 12:02:30 AM

Sounds good to both of you.

And of course...who knows if QB's race was first contact? If there's one set of aliens, whos to say there isn't another alien race doing stuff on earth, harvesting just like the Q Bs but for a different purpose. (and Madoka could have been the Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! ,by removing witches making Earth no good to them, so they decide to waste the planet...hence making it a you just can't win thing?

....nah

That choice before would definitely be drawn there for that reason too. She'd become more like a threat like the witches, unattached to a main plot but still a threat that needs to be stopped (that sounds witch-ish actually) and heads to a place where the wishes are stronger

And that third choice too, would definitely be someone who could be drawn to the place because of the strange stuff. In other stories where I used the good girl, (parents divorced) her father is a famous news reporter and her mother was the wife to the town's mayor (she was a aid, the divorce happened, they got together). A plucky girl like her would be good for this setting. whether it ends up breaking the girl like the serial killer girl is another story.

edited 14th Oct '11 12:07:03 AM by Nicktendonick

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#5872: Oct 14th 2011 at 12:24:09 AM

Please, just stop.

Please.

Your posts are literally giving me a headache.

AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#5873: Oct 14th 2011 at 12:25:32 AM

A cosmic mystery in Kyoen, huh? What might it be?

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#5874: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:25:16 AM

Hmm, I kinda wanted Nazuna to be a villain in this one :(.

Nicktendonick kaleidoscope walker from A place, not B place Since: Jan, 2010
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#5875: Oct 14th 2011 at 10:46:21 AM

Up x3- sorry. I'll stop.

edited 14th Oct '11 10:47:47 AM by Nicktendonick

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