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RandalDrake ColliEditor from Fawnermere (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#79226: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:44:43 AM

I found Keanu Reeves on ActorIllusion, he said guns lots of guns, wanna bet how much Shadow will say this when surrounded by GUN soldiers?

Edited by RandalDrake on Aug 27th 2024 at 1:46:12 AM

He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.
MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a
#79227: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:47:09 AM

Someone's gonna recreate "Keanu is Extremely Horny" with Shadow's model in SFM I can just tell.

Also I hope he shouts "EXCELLENT" and air guitars.

Are explosions science?
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#79228: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:50:32 AM

I read conflicting things about how Flynn writes Shadow. Some say what he does with him is what he wants to do, others say that the way he writes Shadow is forced by how SEGA tells him to.

MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a
#79229: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:56:30 AM

Yeah I read that too, to be fair. Even the IDW page set itself is pretty confused as to whether it was Sega that made him write Shadow like that in the Metal Virus arc or if he did it himself.

Are explosions science?
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#79230: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:56:54 AM

Flynn is forced by sega to wright shadow in a certain way.

After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. My one and only Fate servent.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#79231: Aug 26th 2024 at 10:18:05 AM

I believe that he tried to work with the mandates Sega gave him (and he did say he had mandates), but was still denied letting Shadow take off his bracelets in the Metal Virus Saga (which was supposed to be an attempt by the latter to burn off the virus, but it would fail).

He ended up going with what we got, which was apparently the best idea he could come up with since he couldn't go with the logical thing. I think Sega did want him to get infected due to arrogance, and Flynn roled with it as best he could.

One Strip! One Strip!
MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a
#79232: Aug 26th 2024 at 10:20:30 AM

Its still a complete mess of a plot point any way you try to put it. Hopefully by now people have realized that while maybe inspiration by Vegeta could be a jumping on point for something more original, trying to make Shadow nothing BUT Vegeta is a square peg in a round hole at best, square peg in triangle hole at worst.

Are explosions science?
TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#79233: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:22:11 PM

Honestly, Generations aside, Shadow wasn't really much of a rival to Sonic after some routes of Shadow the Hedgehog. Even in Generations, their fight is really abrupt and out of nowhere and then he's right back to helping Sonic.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#79234: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:29:53 PM

Yeah, I’ve generally felt that Sonic doesn’t really have The Rival as a character type in his cast. Both Knuckles and Shadow kinda play at it sometimes, but both have their own things going on and neither are genuinely interested in surpassing, defeating or one-upping Sonic in general.

They’ll fight or get into contention when the plot makes them, but not really overall. Shadow, especially, is more like the Batman to his Superman, another hero with an ideology that bristles against his, but who can be counted on to help.

There’s Surge, I guess, but the whole “is a victim forced to hate Sonic” thing muddled that a bit. And Metal, but he’s barely ever allowed to be important any more.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 26th 2024 at 12:31:33 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#79236: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:31:57 PM

Metal’s barely featured in anything in the last decade.

He was the closest Sonic had to that kind of character, but he’s not really a current member of the cast any more.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 26th 2024 at 12:33:28 PM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#79237: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:36:31 PM

I feel like the only games where anything close to a rivalry really happens are the racing spinoffs. Jet's always antagonistic to Sonic, and Sonic and Shadow butt heads more in Team Sonic Racing than any game since like 2005.

king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
Have Faun
#79238: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:37:03 PM

Metal Sonic was the rival, until Knuckles came into the picture, and then he was the rival, until Shadow came into the picture. Shadow was the rival, but his mantle was very briefly taken by Silver. Now that Metal Sonic is underused, and Knuckles, Shadow and Silver have developed past being rivals (though it's been a bumpy road), Sonic doesn't really have a consistent rival.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#79239: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:54:32 PM

I’m still of the opinion that Shiro Maekawa’s Shadow is the best characterization for him.

Aloof but caring to people like Rouge and Omega, and respects Sonic and Eggman.

Don’t make him extremely edgy.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#79240: Aug 26th 2024 at 1:12:52 PM

He was the closest Sonic had to that kind of character, but he’s not really a current member of the cast any more.

He's used too much in comics imo. Especially since he just jobs there

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#79241: Aug 26th 2024 at 4:33:46 PM

Sonic Movie 3 trailer drops tomorrow.

It’s happening for real!

Edited by taotruths on Aug 26th 2024 at 4:36:53 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#79242: Aug 26th 2024 at 8:33:42 PM

This is why the Sonic Crew don't hang out together (or form a study group).

Fan animation with dub of a scene from Community.

One Strip! One Strip!
RandalDrake ColliEditor from Fawnermere (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
ColliEditor
#79243: Aug 27th 2024 at 12:06:08 AM

~Mighty Kombat

I hope we get one "woah…" Reeves styles.

And speaking of metal virus I can’t help but remember Shadowbot chasing a van which looks funny XD it’s what the Bringing Running Shoes to a Car Chase Scene looks from an outside perspective.

Also on the rival part the only consistent is Metal Sonic since IDW kick started with him trying to find his father and conquer the world while he wasn’t anywhere.

Second to Knuckles who always show fighting Sonic in some media Sonic X they fought two times both fooled by Robotnik.

Surge besides the conflict in recent issues fans tend to ship her with Sonic in a tsundere-manner

Shadow at this point is his own thing, he was just rival for SA2

He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#79244: Aug 27th 2024 at 2:39:52 AM

Speaking of Metal Sonic, here's footage of him as Metal Overlord in Sonic x Shadow Generations!

Yes, that's "What I'm Made Of" playing in the background and yes, Metal Overlord really does say new stuff!

"NO ONE CAN DEFEAT ME! NOT YOU! NOT SONIC! NOT ANYONE!"

Anyone got chills from that? surprised

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 27th 2024 at 5:40:23 AM

RandalDrake ColliEditor from Fawnermere (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#79245: Aug 27th 2024 at 3:52:26 AM

So that’s why I been seeing lots of covers of "What I'm Made Of" being posted around

He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.
TheDarkMantis Shadow Bug from Ocean of Storms Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#79247: Aug 27th 2024 at 4:13:10 AM

I like how he's just like "Uh oh, someone didn't play Sonic Heroes." if you use Chaos Control.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#79248: Aug 27th 2024 at 4:28:30 AM

Mirror Mode in Sonic Origins; I think most of Sonic 1's design is a bit too simplistic to be as fully chaotic as it code be. (Except for the Special Stages). But that also might just be because I've got less memory for Sonic 1 then the others. I'll bet Sonic CD can get crazy, especially trying to time travel with it.

Also, Hyper Amy. Fun! (I know the text said "Super Amy", but she has the same after images as Hyper Sonic and Knuckles, and gets a special attack. She's Hyper Amy).

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#79249: Aug 27th 2024 at 5:32:59 AM

I know that Sega is likely using What I’m Made of as a placeholder but I hope to god the remix bangs.

And Metal Overlord looks like an incredibly fun Tennis Boss.

Sonic Stadium also had a hands on preview of Kingdom Valley and Metal Overlord too.

Edited by taotruths on Aug 27th 2024 at 5:41:56 AM

king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
Have Faun
#79250: Aug 27th 2024 at 6:20:17 AM

It's already been posted on the movie thread, but thought it would be worth posting the film trailer here:


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