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BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
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#79201: Aug 25th 2024 at 3:13:31 PM

Just an FYI, there is a dedicated thread for the Sonic movies if we wanna move the chat there.

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#79202: Aug 25th 2024 at 6:17:17 PM

Seconded, but somebody did opt to post the news here so... eh?

BigBadShadow25 With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg. from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Desperate
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#79203: Aug 25th 2024 at 6:27:42 PM

Yeah, that was me. I was excited. Sorry.

Oh, you meant the advertising thing. Never mind.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Aug 25th 2024 at 9:28:25 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#79204: Aug 25th 2024 at 7:56:22 PM

Covers for IDW Sonic #75 revealed. Marine the Raccoon is included on two of the six, but Sticks the Badger isn't on any. Having an action cover include Vanilla and Chocola instead of Gemerl was definitely a choice. I think the 6th cover references Mega Man?

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Aug 25th 2024 at 9:59:12 AM

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#79205: Aug 25th 2024 at 7:59:10 PM

kinda makes sense givne that theya re going for a "Game anni" vibe and Marine had a canonical appearance

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#79206: Aug 25th 2024 at 8:01:32 PM

They have lots of comic original characters though, including single arc characters like the kid with his Red Wisp, and an entire team of posthumous characters the original Diamond Cutters.

Though I suppose you could argue the latter come from a game.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#79207: Aug 25th 2024 at 9:40:38 PM

My general point is that Sticks has not appeared in either the non-Boom games (name-drops in Frontiers aside) or the comics so far. Therefore it makes some sense why she was excluded when Marine wasn't.

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#79208: Aug 25th 2024 at 9:41:08 PM

And now played through Sonic 3 and Knuckles as Knuckles. Honestly, looking back, they really did a good job making a lot of Knuckles' playthrough different. Not EVERY stage is substantially so - But enough that you feel like you aren't just playing the same game as Sonic's playthrough again.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79209: Aug 25th 2024 at 10:15:05 PM

I want to talk about Shadow’s relationships with the rest of the Sonic cast in the games:

  • Tolerates Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Silver, Cream, and the Chaotix

  • Has a begrudging respect for Sonic

  • Has a genuine respect for Eggman

  • Actually likes Rouge and Omega

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79210: Aug 25th 2024 at 10:19:11 PM

I think "Tolerates" has more negative connotations. Its more like "barely interacts with." Like people who occasionally talk to each other at the workplace when the job requires them to.

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#79211: Aug 26th 2024 at 2:48:48 AM

[up][up] All I can think especially with Keanu Reeves voice, is him being All John Wick about it, honestly is the only reason I can see him being picked since I am one of the few who don't like Idris as Knuckles and when you listen to Keanu usual voice most of his characters doesn't fit and the closest I can see is John Wick's.

Here's hoping this movie has most action than the previous two, I am most definetly sure there's gonna be some Actor Allusion more specifically for Neo and Wick especially fight scene and if SEGA will allow Shadow to use guns.

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#79212: Aug 26th 2024 at 5:35:57 AM

Shadow seems to have something of a soft spot for Amy. They never really fight and he even was trying to figure out a thoughtful birthday gift for her in the VN.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79213: Aug 26th 2024 at 5:52:48 AM

Amy did help trigger the memory of what Maria's true wish for Shadow was. Well.. Depending on how accurate the writer of a given game is interested in being.

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#79214: Aug 26th 2024 at 6:18:51 AM

the original has quite dissonance values to it becaus of the badly voice acting, hope the generations make it more emtional and facial expressive instead of that Uncanny Valley that was the SA1&2

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#79215: Aug 26th 2024 at 6:27:28 AM

[up]Huh? "Dissonance values"?

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Aug 26th 2024 at 9:27:55 AM

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79216: Aug 26th 2024 at 6:45:42 AM

I wonder how Shadow would feel about Sage.

And Orbot and Cubot.

Shadow honestly hasn’t interacted with any of Eggman’s “children” barring Omega.

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#79217: Aug 26th 2024 at 6:56:35 AM

To Orbot and Cubot it would be most ignoring their existence or using them to practice his kicking skills to Eggman's face.

To Sage: " what with this sassy lost child, and why she calling herself Eggman's daughter? The thought disgust me."

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#79218: Aug 26th 2024 at 8:37:08 AM

I'll always point out that Shadow willingly went to Amy's birthday party, but it took the end of the world for him to go to Sonic's in generations.

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#79219: Aug 26th 2024 at 8:39:33 AM

Well, Murder takes place a while after Generations, right? Maybe Shadow became friendlier since then.

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#79220: Aug 26th 2024 at 8:52:03 AM

Murder's also kinda loosely canon even by the standards of a franchise that's regularly a bit loose with canon.

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#79221: Aug 26th 2024 at 8:58:10 AM

IIRC, Murder was made by the same team that handles stuff like the Twitter Takeovers.

Twitter Takeover Shadow is generally written as a fairly chill and cultured but aloof guy capable of being amiable or even caring... except when Sonic is involved.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79222: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:16:21 AM

I hope the writing in Shadow Generations uses a more deft touch. At least, by the end of the game. I feel like we need a new happy medium for Shadow; I'm not asking him to be buddy-buddy with Sonic - But I think the "Sonic's Rival" trope being basically all he has post-06 is getting stale.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#79223: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:36:03 AM

I feel like the last game to portray Shadow as an actual rival was the original Generations.

Forces does a fake out with the illusionary Shadow, and then gives him his own story to tell you he's firmly on the side of good, and he doesn't even really argue with Sonic in that one.

king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
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#79224: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:36:54 AM

[up][up][up][up]The official word on it is that it's basically as canon as you want it to be.

As for Shadow, I think Murder was him at his best (though slightly more comedic due to the tone of the game). Aloof, isolated, but also caring to those he likes. I think he works best as his someone on his own path, sometimes that will be the same as the heroes, sometimes it might go against them, but fundamentally he remains as an anti-hero.

Edited by king15 on Aug 26th 2024 at 4:37:04 PM

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#79225: Aug 26th 2024 at 9:38:04 AM

Yeah, I can go with that. Not going out of his way to be a rival but just being a sort of distant guy works better for him than what modern Sega, Flynn and most fans try to do with him.

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