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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#79151: Aug 22nd 2024 at 5:58:27 PM

I found a good, sad fanfic based on the bad ending of Sonic 2 for Game Gear. Tails doesn't die but he and Sonic are both roboticized.

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TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#79152: Aug 23rd 2024 at 8:17:47 AM

Apparently Sonic's story might get some touched up cutscenes since his story and Shadow's are going to intersect a few times. Fingers crossed for those other things I asked for.

king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
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#79153: Aug 23rd 2024 at 8:21:57 AM

Have they said what the best order to play is? As in, whether to do Sonic or Shadow's first? I'm thinking of Sonic, since I can get that out of the way (don't get me wrong, Generations is my favourite game in the series, but I want to get the old stuff over with) and look forward to the new stuff.

TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#79154: Aug 23rd 2024 at 8:23:22 AM

I don't believe there's been any word on anything like that. I do think it was said you can start with either character, though.

wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#79155: Aug 23rd 2024 at 8:35:43 AM

[up][up] My plan is to do Sonic's story first, then Shadow's.

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#79156: Aug 23rd 2024 at 8:59:56 AM

Either way, I'm just doing Shadow. I already went through Sonic Gens years ago and considering my thoughts on the game... Yeah, I have no incentive to do it again. Also going through it again would mean I'd have to beat the atrocious Time Eater fight again.

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#79157: Aug 23rd 2024 at 9:01:41 AM

I can't play the game, so I'll just watch the cutscenes on Youtube.

Again.

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Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#79158: Aug 23rd 2024 at 9:05:33 AM

Whatever they say in regards to "proper" play order (if they say anything at all), I'm playing the new stuff first. That's what I'm buying the game for, after all. If it was just a straight Generations HD, I would've stuck with the original on Steam.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#79159: Aug 23rd 2024 at 10:53:32 AM

I mean, I'll play both. I loved Sonic Generations up until Planet Wisp, and I'd rather not play it on PS 3 again. If I only played just the Shadow parts of the game I feel like I'd be spending 50-60 dollars for half of a video game.

[up] (3) If it makes you feel any better the time I spend playing Shadow Generations will be cutting into the time I spend on college and getting myself out of poverty.

Edited by FOFD on Aug 23rd 2024 at 1:54:45 PM

Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#79160: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:13:29 AM

[up]Sorry, I didn't mean I wasn't going to play the Sonic part at all, I am. I just want the new stuff more.

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#79161: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:33:20 AM

Looking at a video running through ARK Act 1 from Gamescom, I just noticed that there is a "lock" over Shadow's chaos meter when he gets trapped in Doom's Eye's Illusions'. It was always there, this is just the first time I'm realizing.

Edited by taotruths on Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:34:39 AM

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79163: Aug 23rd 2024 at 3:50:55 PM

Bought Sonic Origins Plus.. Oh, hey, they got the rights to the vocal version of "You Can Do Anything" for CD this time? NEAT! Hopefully they did for "Cosmic Eternity" as well.

Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#79164: Aug 23rd 2024 at 4:18:47 PM

I think they recorded new vocals for those track because they sounded SLIGHTLY different. Not 100%, though.

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#79165: Aug 23rd 2024 at 4:51:16 PM

Actually they screwed up and used versions of "You Can Do Anything" and "Cosmic Eternity" from earlier protos of the original game, rather than the final versions used in, well, the final releases of the game.

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79166: Aug 23rd 2024 at 5:20:30 PM

Really? Its not even that noticeable for You Can Do Anything, unless you listened to them side-by-side, I guess. I assume it'll be a lot more noticeable with Cosmic Eternity.

...That, or its a relatively minor thing in the first place.

Anyway, finished Sonic 1 in "Story Mode." Oh, wow. 2 cutscenes. Brilliant story. tongue Nah, I kid.

Edited by diddyknux on Aug 23rd 2024 at 5:22:56 AM

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#79167: Aug 23rd 2024 at 5:22:04 PM

To be fair it is rather faint, but the biggest different is Keiko's singing in the Origins/beta version doesn't sound nearly as hard or pronounced as the "proper" one.

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Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#79168: Aug 23rd 2024 at 6:47:23 PM

Oh, they were beta tracks? I assumed they were new recordings to get around the rights issue.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79169: Aug 23rd 2024 at 10:28:36 PM

Okay, one major problem I have with Origins is the way it handles off-screen objects. In the originals, you didn't have to move an object far offscreen for it the game to act like its not there. Likewise, an object wouldn't spawn until it was nearly on screen. Enemy attacks and obstacle movements were made with THAT in mind. Now, though, enemies and objects can spawn earlier and stay spawned longer. This leads to issues, like missing patterns at high speeds that normally they were made to accomodate. Leads to a lot of cheap hits and deaths that you wouldn't get in the originals.

Also, is it just me, or are the physics of Sonic 1's Special Stages and 3's Slot Bonus Stage WAY different? Like, you don't interact with walls the way you used to? Or am I imagining that?

Anyway. Super Amy!

Ah, and here we get to the replaced Sonic 3 tracks. Never listened to them in full before.

Carnival Night Act 1 is fine. Was never a huge fan of the original, so if anything, this is just a lateral movement.

CN Act 2 I actually really liked. I think its actually an improvement over the original's.

Ice Cap Act 1. oh... Well, its was always gonna be rough replacing one of the best tracks in the original game. But its hard to call this even good. It sounds like something that should be in one of the Sonic Advance games, honestly.

I... Honestly can't even tell what the difference is in Act 2's rendition. Thank you for overriding the music, Super Theme!

Launch Base Act 1.. While I certainly can't call this superior to the original, I kind of like it. Gives me a Wing Fortress vibe, which makes sense with the Death Egg looming in the background. Pretty good.

LB Act 2. Oh! This song's pretty neat. I actually really like it. It gives me vibes similar to Death Egg Zone (the Sonic & Knuckles one) in the first part of the song. The middle section is a little bit weird - More like something you'd hear in a Special Stage, but still good. And then a little bit of panic crescendo at the end before the songs loops.

Overall, the replaced music is honestly mostly fine, to actually pretty good in its own right. Ice Cap is a big disappointment though.

Edit: Oh, interesting, we're doing Big Arms even though its Sonic 3 and Knuckles. I'm fine with this - Knuckles does it, after all.

Edited by diddyknux on Aug 23rd 2024 at 10:34:33 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#79170: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:00:04 PM

Launch Base Act 2 actually has more in common with Hydocity (Velocity) Zone, since it's the part of the level with water in it.

That was neat to learn.

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79171: Aug 24th 2024 at 6:37:55 AM

Sonic 2 Special Stages are the worst in the series. At least when you have Tails with you they are. Glad they included the retry feature.

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#79172: Aug 24th 2024 at 7:44:25 AM

They have their fair share of Fake Difficulty due to Tails and the bends making it impossible sometimes to see what's coming up, but I still prefer it over special stages with gimmick controls like Lost World 3DS.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#79173: Aug 24th 2024 at 8:16:54 AM

The gimmick was 3D...

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#79174: Aug 24th 2024 at 8:20:46 AM

The remaster made them more bearable by making the half pipes actual 3D sorta, as well as the smoother framerate and improved FOV. Like with the camera pulled back I can actually plan my next move.

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#79175: Aug 24th 2024 at 4:10:04 PM

Hey! The "Premium Selection" of the Sound Museum has Sonic Generations versions of songs in the game, but it missed one! Balloon Park should also be there! [lol]


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