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king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
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#79051: Aug 20th 2024 at 9:41:44 AM

"You took everything from me"

"I don't even know who you are"

Except the person doing the asskicking would be flipped in this scenario.

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#79052: Aug 20th 2024 at 9:48:08 AM

first thoughts: "oh, huh, Shadow's awakening his Persona. cool."

next: "please let Shadow keep these in a future game, please let him keep them, please—"

next: "NEW SONG??????"

finally: "Doom Surf is the goofiest name i've ever heard. hilarious."

"For you, nothing has changed." "Everything has changed, sir." "...Perhaps everything will change again."
taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#79053: Aug 20th 2024 at 9:56:02 AM

[up]Shadow's skills competing in the olympics are paying off with Doom Surf.

Edited by taotruths on Aug 20th 2024 at 9:56:48 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#79054: Aug 20th 2024 at 10:22:14 AM

[up] Shadow: I'd like to see that strange man in green top this!

(Because the M&S Games kept pairing Shadow with Luigi in the cinematics?)

Goros Since: Nov, 2021
#79055: Aug 20th 2024 at 10:33:46 AM

[up]Luigi became the surboard in Superstar Saga, you can't surf more than that.

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#79056: Aug 20th 2024 at 12:56:17 PM

Can I just say we've come so far since 2005? Back then there was lots of mocking about how over the top edgy Shadow was fighting aliens with guns while cursing, yet here we are being excited over Black Doom returning and Shadow using said aliens' powers and even sprouting alien wings, which is arguable more over the top than anything from his game. Of course, not everything was salvageable "This is like taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me", but still.

No rain could douse the flames that burn within me!
TomWithoutJerry Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good. from Where Might Makes Right and I have no Might. Since: Dec, 2023
Tyranny Bad, Democracy Good.
#79057: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:03:06 PM

Next comes the rehabilitation of Sonic 2006... ah ha ha ha ha, no.

Please remember that, ultimately, fictional works of entertainment are just that.
wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#79058: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:05:54 PM

[up] Even if they made the game far more playable with little (to no) loading times and WAY better controls (or however you call it)...there's still Princess Elise and the smooch of a hedgehog corpse.

Unless they made a sort of a reboot, where Elise is far more likeable, doesn't become the Damsel Scrappy, and finds a DIFFERENT way to revive Sonic at the end.

Edited by wooden-ladybug93 on Aug 20th 2024 at 3:06:47 AM

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#79059: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:08:47 PM

I mean, the thing is on a conceptual level Sonic 06 seemed like it would be great (well, ok, 2/3 of it) while the mere concept of Shadow the Hedgehog had people crying from laughter.

Edited by mstorzil on Aug 20th 2024 at 1:10:21 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#79060: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:11:34 PM

It is weird how much people are behind Shadow's going all in on edge now.

Maybe his Character Derailment for the past few years has given people a new appreciation for edginess done right, even if that sounds a bit contradictory.

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#79061: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:12:53 PM

Nostalgia can also be a big factor too. Vindication by the history books is also def in play here.

Smoker130 Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#79062: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:15:13 PM

P06 did make Sonic 06 playable from what I've heard. Showing that it is possible. And while some people bitch that you can't save the plot I'd argue that it's the easiest part to fix in a remake, it's just changing some text.

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#79063: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:15:40 PM

Depends on if they plan to rerail him any time soon or if they'll keep making him the "edge" punchline, or kowtow to fans and just make him an outright Vegeta clone.

Right now though I'm cautiously optimistic.

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#79064: Aug 20th 2024 at 1:23:03 PM

Well, STILL no trailer for the third Sonic movie at Gamescon opening night. Maybe we’ll get lucky and it’ll drop this week, but I would be shocked if it wasn’t getting delayed.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Aug 20th 2024 at 4:23:20 AM

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#79065: Aug 20th 2024 at 2:44:48 PM

I can't believe the movie about simba dad scared Sega so much. tongue

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79066: Aug 20th 2024 at 2:50:34 PM

The thing that really got me in this trailer was Shadow uppercutting an enemy, dashing to the enemy's location in mid air, and then boosting forward. That's an amazing combo for traversal.

It's the new twenties, it's about time for emo to get retro and return to being fashionable and Shadow is perfect for it.

The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#79067: Aug 20th 2024 at 2:56:50 PM

Re: why the shadow's game was hated.

I believe the reason why the game was hated so much was that it just using the most bare bones approach at the time to be cool, like guns, swearing and a "morality system" was petty much a check list on the later 2000s set of games to be deep and mature to a crowd that wanted to be taken seriously.

As for why people are excited now is that shadow's doom powers is adding so more layers to his origins, which flows far more better then the above stuff I'm mentioned.

Would the doom powers be better then the guns back in the day, to me I think so but YMMV is in full effect about that.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79068: Aug 20th 2024 at 3:20:25 PM

My main issue with Shadow the Hedgehog's game was that it was painfully slow. Enemies having health bars slowed it down. The quests mostly being collectathons slowed it down.

I actually dropped off the franchise for nearly two decades thanks to that game.

The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#79069: Aug 20th 2024 at 3:27:43 PM

I can see you point in that, but with how the series is now doing open world zones it's now more fitting to give enemy's health bars while the normal speed stage gameplay is the same enemies die in one hit as a decent middle ground.

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#79070: Aug 20th 2024 at 4:47:39 PM

Eh, people act like guns never appeard before Shadow. But Gamma had a gun. Eggman had a gun in a cutscene in SA 2. It's more about the framing. Shadow with a gun could work fine.

The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#79071: Aug 20th 2024 at 5:19:36 PM

[up]well for your information Gamma has a blaster not a gun, and the Eggman with a gun cutscene is why I don't really like SA 2 anymore as I find it nonsensical to the series and made me realize that the plot had more holes then swiss cheese.

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MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#79072: Aug 20th 2024 at 5:26:29 PM

The thing with Shadow's guns is that they're meant to be more realistic Earth firearms to appeal to the cool kids among players. That's why Shadow has an MP 5 in the intro that he cocks the fixed handguard of...somehow.

Its patently ridiculous to see such a real firearm in a Sonic game and I'm disappointed that Shadow's Big comeback game hasn't given us a whiff of him blasting Black Doom or Infinite or I dunno, Surge in the face with an M 4 A 1 SOPMOD.

Edited by MightyKombat on Aug 20th 2024 at 5:26:41 AM

Are explosions science?
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#79073: Aug 20th 2024 at 5:32:07 PM

[up]for me I would rather have Shadow have a modified SPAS shotgun that fires chaos energy.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#79074: Aug 20th 2024 at 5:51:01 PM

Eggman and Tails' mechs both have guns on them...

It shoots a single bullet before you can lock on to an enemy, there's even an upgrade that makes it stronger.

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MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#79075: Aug 20th 2024 at 5:57:55 PM

Also the SWAT guys use realistic-sounding firearms on Chaos at the start of SA 1.

Are explosions science?

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