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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#78877: Jul 26th 2024 at 1:54:38 PM

A small price to pay for a Zombot Froggy.

Anyway, I asked an AI to summarize Pariah's video. Basically the same thing I have heard a dozen times already regarding characterization, except that the first arc is bland, and how Flynn's writing appears to lack nuance or meaningful themes. At least I got something new out of the whole damn thing with this community.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#78878: Jul 26th 2024 at 2:37:03 PM

asked an AI to summarize Pariah's video.

hold up

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#78879: Jul 26th 2024 at 2:44:10 PM

I tend to avoid the more negative Sonic videos. I usually try to find the Sonic videos that are a bit more positive about the franchise.

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#78880: Jul 26th 2024 at 7:04:00 PM

[up][up] It's the lazy way, I know, I'm not in the mood for a n hour video with the same arguments I have heard for the last 6 years.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#78881: Jul 27th 2024 at 7:22:35 AM

No that's all well and good, but I didn't know there were AI that could do that.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#78882: Jul 27th 2024 at 8:13:12 AM

This guy goes into what he felt was stylistically/tonally different about Sonic Riders and Zero Gravity:

It's not really negative. Just discerning. I like Zero Gravity and he's criticizing it by pointing out things he liked better in Riders.

I always felt like ZG was somehow substantially different from the first game. Beyond the gravity mechanic. Despite how much I hated Riders because I could never beat that second stage iwth Tails in the jungle, I kind of liked the mechanic of managing your air and using air currents for drift. Zero Gravity abandoned that to make use of the Gravity Dive - which helped me substantially. My claim to fame in this thread will always be playing this game religiously for an entire summer and clearing the 200 soemthing side missions to unlock Super Sonic.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78883: Jul 27th 2024 at 3:50:25 PM

So…I’m gonna say something about Crush 40:

They went so hard on the Black Knight OST.

Knight of the Wind, Fight the Knight, Live Life, and their cover of With Me are legit some of their best work with this franchise.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Movie and TV Goddess
#78884: Jul 28th 2024 at 1:41:27 PM

I loved most of the songs from Crush 40. My favorites were definitely "Open Your Heart" and "Live and Learn."

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#78885: Jul 29th 2024 at 4:42:30 AM

Despite how much I hated Riders because I could never beat that second stage iwth Tails in the jungle

???

That's the second track, and a quite easy one?

Riders is basically getting huge jumps so you can pull off tricks, so you get more air when you land, so you can go faster to get those huge jumps, all while using the shortcuts your character type can use. And drifting on turns so you can exit them with a speed boost.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78886: Jul 29th 2024 at 5:59:33 AM

No...the 2nd race is decent.

But the Knuckles race is way harder.

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#78887: Jul 29th 2024 at 6:09:32 AM

I think "Second stage with Tails, in the jungle." would be Green Cave, the fourth stage, not Splash Canyon, the second.

I could see Green Cave being difficult - There's a lot of alternate paths, and not necessarily a lot of jumps on which to keep air up. And if you aren't good at getting max height on jumps, you'll miss the quicker route near the end of the track - which the CPU usually won't.

Edited by diddyknux on Jul 29th 2024 at 6:10:08 AM

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#78888: Jul 29th 2024 at 6:40:43 AM

Yeah, I believe it. Young me learned real quick about the "hold for more air" trick on ramps cuz Wave kept beating me.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#78889: Jul 29th 2024 at 7:00:38 AM

Ah yeah, the second Tails stage, rather than the second stage (with Tails), makes more sense to be troublesome, my bad! Green Cave is a difficulty spike alright. Cobweb shortcuts with huge jumps help a lot but those aren't really something you get the hang of in the first play.

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Live Jet Reaction
#78890: Jul 29th 2024 at 7:52:10 AM

I remember beating all four first stages fairly easily as a kid, but then coming undone at Sand Ruins. And then when I managed to beat that, I hit the block on Babylon Gardens until I got lucky.

And then I beat the first five stages of Babylon Rogues' story real easy as a kid, and then get stuck on their version of Babylon Garden.

I finally managed to beat both Riders and Zero Gravity for the first time in succession last year, starting over from scratch for the former.

Edited by taotruths on Jul 29th 2024 at 7:52:34 AM

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#78891: Jul 29th 2024 at 8:58:15 AM

Green Cave and then Babylon Garden were the two that kept me from beating Riders for a while.

Drifts, man...

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#78892: Jul 29th 2024 at 9:52:54 AM

I'm not sure if it was Green Cave or Splash Canyon, but I know it was a stage with Tails. Thanks for the correction.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#78893: Jul 29th 2024 at 2:21:19 PM

I mean, I was given Sonic Riders precisely because my cousin couldn't beat the first stage of story mode.

And my brother couldn't either.

The game's biggest flaw IS the lack of a convenient tutorial, and when you do find it it's literally just a video.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#78894: Jul 29th 2024 at 2:39:38 PM

The Xbox Live backwards compatible version of Generations has been delisted.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78895: Jul 29th 2024 at 2:44:43 PM

[up]I hate how original versions of games get delisted when a remaster is coming.

Like can we not force games into a “Star Wars Trilogy: Special Edition” situation?

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#78897: Jul 29th 2024 at 8:23:10 PM

[up]How is it dead? The series tends to be a best seller!

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
☆♥☆
#78898: Jul 29th 2024 at 8:43:28 PM

From the way he talks it sounds like it wasn't an issue on Sega's end but the Olympics'. Sounds like they weren't interested anymore in giving Sega the license to use together with the Sonic and Mario characters, and instead want to give the license to someone else to handle in whatever way they're looking for.

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#78900: Jul 29th 2024 at 8:55:10 PM

Well if true, then that means Sega can stop focusing on the Olympics with Mario and Sonic, and start focusing on the true crossover event we all have been waiting for…

Mario and Sonic at the US Presidential Elections!


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