TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

General Sonic The Hedgehog thread

Go To

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#78727: Jul 1st 2024 at 10:02:31 PM

[up]x4 The implication I got was that it was the former.

EDIT: Bottom-paged.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Jul 1st 2024 at 1:03:12 PM

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#78728: Jul 1st 2024 at 10:47:31 PM

[up][up] Yes. You know, that show was my first exposure to Sonic before the games.

AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#78729: Jul 2nd 2024 at 3:46:22 AM

S3K speedruns are arguably as crazy as, or crazier than, Mario 64 speedruns. Mario needs much more setup to break physics, Sonic just needs a nice slope and room to spindash.

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#78730: Jul 2nd 2024 at 2:42:32 PM

Skipped the last 6 pages of the thread while on vacation, so sorry if I missed anything important.

So it has been bugging me that Tails doesn't have a Homing Attack in Frontiers, since:

  • It feels like practically a requirement to play the game at some points
  • It feels like Tails has always been the main non-Hedgehog to *get* the Homing Attack

So I decided to go through and check out every non-Sonic instance of the Homing attack according to this wiki page:

  • Adventure DX: Metal Sonic
  • Adventure 2:
    • Shadow (canonically)
    • Amy and Metal Sonic (as a gameplay requirement)
  • Advance 3:
    • Tails (can use it in the same manner Sonic can, which is exclusive to being paired with Cream)
    • Knuckles (can use it only during a glide when paired with Cream)
  • Heroes: Shadow, Amy, Espio (canonically? also as a gameplay requirement)
  • 06:
    • Shadow
    • Blaze (the linked page lists the Fire Claw separately as a variant, but it's basically the same thing)
  • Rivals: All characters
  • Rivals 2: All characters
  • Forces:
    • Shadow (it feels like his version fuctions differently in his levels, or he just has more opportunities for Serial Homing)
    • The Avatar (the linked page lists the Wire Attack separately as a variant, but it's basically the same thing)
  • Frontiers:
    • Amy and Knuckles
  • Dream Team: Amy, presumably, but this section hasn't been updated

Notes:

  • I guess I just associated Tails more with the Homing Attack solely because of Advance 3. In actuality, it seems it's only consistently used by Hedgehogs, with rare exception for Tails, Knuckles, Blaze, and the Avatar.
  • The page also lists the Maximum Heat Knuckles Attack (Knuckles' move in Adventure) and the Screwdriver (Knuckles' move in 06) as variants, but I wouldn't really consider either to be, as the former is more of a Light Speed Attack, and the latter is just aiming.
  • Whoever tried to force the Homing Dash to be called the "griddy", that's a lame forced meme and they shouldn't have been rewarded.
  • If you really want to be technical, the page forgot to list it as Cheese's main ability.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jul 2nd 2024 at 5:36:03 AM

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#78731: Jul 3rd 2024 at 12:25:06 AM

With Heroes's Speed formation, you can perform a homing attack as a trio if all three of you are jumping and recognise a valid target.

It's finnicky, but it does mean that all 12 characters can homing attack in that game.

AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#78732: Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:47:03 AM

I would differentiate Tails by having him use the Thunder Shoot instead of a straight Homing Attack.

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78733: Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:27:23 PM

Tails generally doesn’t have a homing attack because the homing attack is a midair mobility tool, which Tails doesn’t really need.

To really fix the issue that it means the games have gameplay that doesn’t quite fit Tails, imo the solution should be to expand Tails’ flight mechanics (something that’s long overdue imo) to give it more versatility. Like, give him a way cancel his fly into a zoom or a swoop or something.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:30:16 AM

taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78734: Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:41:21 PM

Dream Team: Amy, presumably, but this section hasn't been updated

I can answer this one, all playable characters have the homing attack in Dream Team.

Edited by taotruths on Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:41:36 AM

wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#78735: Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:49:22 PM

Plus wouldn't double-tapping the jump button make Tails fly anyway?

JankyKong He's finally back to kick some... wait from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
He's finally back to kick some... wait
#78736: Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:50:01 PM

I believe they also all have the Homing Attack in the 3DS Boom games, but it's been years since I've touched those, so I forget.

Your melody still remains in this room and it rings
wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#78737: Jul 3rd 2024 at 2:50:37 PM

[up] I should point out I never played the Boom games.

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#78739: Jul 4th 2024 at 7:11:43 AM

Her words at the end, describing Ken is quite a word:

Ken is undeniably a complete jackass and all around unpleasant, vindictive person who’s rightly become an industry pariah. He’s a self-proclaimed paragon of progressive values who’ll send Comicsgaters after his successors for the crime of not worshiping the ground he walks on, and then turn around and announce he’s going to reprint their work without even consulting them. He’s a sore winner who already won his copyright battle on a level most comic writers would never dare to dream of, and yet still won’t truly be satisfied until he sees an entire major comic publisher go out of business, putting god knows how many people out of work, because he thinks this would get him back the license to a video game franchise he doesn’t even like.

But I still have to pity him.

As an artist, the trajectory of his life is my nightmare. I think all of us fear dying before we can tell all the stories we want to tell. There’s simply never enough time to do everything. And here’s Ken in his 60s, talking about how he’s still planning on making his magnum opus all by himself out of stubbornness and pride, despite demonstrably proving he can’t handle the workload, and also talking about how if he dies before the project can be finished he’ll have to pass the torch on to his kids and get them to finish it for him. It’s so grim. Even just typing that sends a shiver down my spine. It took nine years of his limited time on Earth to finish and release an 11-page comic about Geoffrey St. John sitting backwards in a chair.

This is a purgatory of his own creation. And yet… I’m not sure he’s ever been prouder. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TheDarkMantis Shadow Bug from Ocean of Storms Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Shadow Bug
#78740: Jul 4th 2024 at 7:32:16 AM

On the one hand: If a trash bag like Penders can do this, a plain joe schmoe like me can get my own stories out there.

On the other hand: The fact that he's STILL this sore over the matter and probably will die before he ever gives up that grudge is rather disquieting to think about. He is the epitome of I Reject Your Reality.

"That we continue to persist at all is a testament to our faith in one another."
wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#78741: Jul 4th 2024 at 10:11:07 AM

Little question regarding "Superstars": In the background of Egg Fortress Zone, a purple moon resembling The End can be seen in the background, however Ian Flynn has confirmed that it isn't The End. So then...WHAT THE HECK IS THAT THING?!

Edited by wooden-ladybug93 on Jul 4th 2024 at 12:12:03 PM

taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78743: Jul 4th 2024 at 10:39:44 AM

[up]It's just an artistic choice, and not meant to be that deep.

Edited by taotruths on Jul 4th 2024 at 10:39:53 AM

taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78744: Jul 5th 2024 at 7:06:30 AM

Tomorrow is the premiere of the Sonic x Shadow: Dark Beginnings animation!

I swear, it only felt like yesterday that we only just got the teaser trailer.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#78745: Jul 5th 2024 at 9:43:54 AM

I'm rather excited.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78746: Jul 6th 2024 at 12:27:00 PM

Exclusive posters of Dark Beginnings are being handed out at Anime Expo and it has EMERL?!?!

Speaking of which, the panel is live now.

Edited by taotruths on Jul 6th 2024 at 12:31:36 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#78747: Jul 6th 2024 at 12:37:34 PM

Exclusive posters of Dark Beginnings are being handed out at Anime Expo and it has EMERL?!?!

I mean, Emerl was found by Gerald, right?

HOO BOY, it's gonna go there! Sonic Battle lore of all things!

(*takes deep breaths like Leo DiCaprio in Don't Look Up*)

I'm not ready. You guys ready? surprised

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#78748: Jul 6th 2024 at 12:40:30 PM

[up][up] and [up] Now if only Sega could also use Emerl to allude to Sonic Chronicles without risking a lawsuit from Penders.

Edited by TrashJack on Jul 6th 2024 at 3:41:08 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#78749: Jul 6th 2024 at 12:53:21 PM

So I've pick up frontiers again, and man it feel very different in both the open zones and levels it's has compared to other sonic games, then again I haven't played a 3d Sonic game since Generations. (outside of renting lost world, which I've gave up half way through.)

After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. My one and only Fate servent.
taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78750: Jul 6th 2024 at 12:54:41 PM

Some new Maria sketches done for the prologue animation, shown during the panel!

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/new_maria_sketches_for_the_animation.JPG

Edited by taotruths on Jul 6th 2024 at 12:56:31 PM


Total posts: 84,033
Top