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#78526: Jun 14th 2024 at 5:17:44 PM

Well, Sonadow is going to be written by Flynn...but, Windii has suggested that the script was written in Japanese first due to writing things she noticed.

If Flynn is the writer, do you think he is going to push for his scrapped Archie idea of Mephiles and Black Doom working together? It's Time Eater going to be Mephiles all along?

Do you expect to see Omega and Maria in this story? Maybe Gerald?

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king15 Have Faun Since: Mar, 2024
Have Faun
#78527: Jun 14th 2024 at 5:20:07 PM

Appearances? Probably not, but possible. Mentions? Very likely.

As for the Time Eater being Melhiles, that would fit very well since 06 is the only other major Sonic game with time travel as a major component.

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#78528: Jun 14th 2024 at 5:25:09 PM

Believe me, even as a huge fan of HD Unleashed, you can't even pay me to go through Eggmanland again. In fact, if it wasn't for Eggmanland I would have no problem going through the whole story right from scratch again. I think it's pretty telling that I was actually willing to collect all the collectibles and get all S Ranks in those damn Classic Sonic levels in Forces, yet I never went back to Eggmanland after beating it to try to get all the collectibles and the S Rank.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#78529: Jun 14th 2024 at 7:06:05 PM

[up][up][up]I could see them appearing in Shadow's mindspace, but probably not in any actual levels.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#78530: Jun 14th 2024 at 10:09:54 PM

I decided to finally sit down and beat Forces. I literally beat the first level one handed once I got the boost, only occasionally jumping. And almost got the S rank. This game doesn't have level design.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Jun 14th 2024 at 1:37:42 PM

Once Upon A Time.
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#78531: Jun 14th 2024 at 11:23:50 PM

I've never found the Werehog levels bad per say, I just think ots a mistake to have them be so long. (This complaint holds for the Wii version, it just splits it's Werehog stages into Acts.)

Someone said Spagonia, but Empire City's day stage is honestly one of my favorite in the series.

I love Sonic Unleashed's Day levels. They get punishing as he'll, and maybe unfair (Adabat's bad frame rate doesn't help), but when you learn a level and can get it down? So awesome. Getting the Trophy for beating Shamar Day in 2 and a half minutes was SO satisfying to me.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#78532: Jun 14th 2024 at 11:40:51 PM

[up] I used to hate Boost Sonic before I learned that the point is to master the game. Levels aren't a one and done.

Once Upon A Time.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78533: Jun 15th 2024 at 12:48:13 AM

That's...all Sonic games.

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#78534: Jun 15th 2024 at 12:59:21 AM

[up] I didn't realize that about Sonic as a whole.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#78535: Jun 15th 2024 at 1:13:29 AM

That's the idea behind the upper path in the 2D games. You aren't going to be able to stick to the fastest way through on your first try. They're games made with a little bit of a speedrunner's mindset.

Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#78536: Jun 15th 2024 at 3:27:37 AM

That really only applies to Sonic 2. In fact some people consider it a weakness of the game.

wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#78537: Jun 15th 2024 at 7:26:30 AM

Hopefully the controls for Sonic & Shadow Generations (yeah, that's how I'm pronouncing the "x" in the title) will be a little tighter this time.

The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#78538: Jun 15th 2024 at 8:36:42 AM

[up][up]that's a bold face lie right there.

@The Living Drawing yes the Sonic series gameplay is all about your reaction time on were you need to go and if you are skilled enough you can shave of half you time in a stage to get the best rank.

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Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#78539: Jun 15th 2024 at 9:47:10 AM

[up]...no it really isn't. But if all you have to say is "you lie" then arguing is a waste of my time.

The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#78540: Jun 15th 2024 at 11:00:44 AM

No it's a lie because that what makes a Sonic game a Sonic game, skillful reaction time rewards you a fast pass to the goal and Sonic 2 is the game that made it a part of the gameplay.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#78541: Jun 15th 2024 at 11:56:09 AM

If Ian gets the chance to make the Time Eater be Mephiles all along like he's always theorized I'm going to be popping off so hard it'll be like an early New Year's Eve fireworks show.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#78542: Jun 15th 2024 at 1:11:20 PM

My theory is that the Time Eater isn't Mephiles but Solaris's remains. Mephiles remains became the Phantom Ruby while Iblis remains became the Ifrit. Elise blows out the flame erasing the current Solaris but what about the Solaris that exists in the past before the flame is blown out?

Another theory I have is that the events of Shadow Generations will cause the Robotniks to return back to when they came from.

Edited by neoamon on Jun 15th 2024 at 9:18:21 AM

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Live Jet Reaction
#78543: Jun 15th 2024 at 1:49:24 PM

[up]That’s my theory too, but considering how the director said how they escaped is “up to players’ imagination” I kinda doubt it

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#78544: Jun 15th 2024 at 2:32:48 PM

Shadow Generations's homing attack is a legitimate teleport (there's a clip of it working on that Artificial Chaos behind a laser grid without waiting for the laser grid to go down)

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#78545: Jun 15th 2024 at 2:52:51 PM

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ImmaLelouch (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78546: Jun 15th 2024 at 3:05:11 PM

This video goes into depth levels of Forces how Shadow Generations is much better.

Like old Sonic games, Shadow Generations levels actually reward skilled gameplay with their alternate paths being shortcuts to the level instead of Forces where isn't much difference, and there's a lot of autotmated gameplay. Also, the level is much longer compared to forces where a level could in about a minute.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#78547: Jun 15th 2024 at 3:29:54 PM

[up] I'm playing through Forces and my experience thus far has been a mix of laughing at the game and thinking it is one of the worst and laziest games I have ever played (though I rarely play bad games). The game's level design is so automated it might as well not exist.

Once Upon A Time.
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#78548: Jun 15th 2024 at 3:39:49 PM

Honestly, people say that you barely have to play Forces and that it's really easy, but I think that's better than playing a buggy game where the physics don't work right and you die over and over again at random points through no fault of your own.

Edited by WillKeaton on Jun 15th 2024 at 6:43:19 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78549: Jun 15th 2024 at 3:41:25 PM

Alternate extreme.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#78550: Jun 15th 2024 at 4:27:33 PM

Forces is sort of like, unpolished in the sense that the level design feels low effort and story is a mess, but it's also reasonably polished as far as the presentation goes and not being particularly buggy. It's not really a good game overall, but because it's so short and easy it's neither frustrating to play nor a tedious waste of time, so really it's far from the worst game I've played or even the worst Sonic game I've played. It's like low C-tier as far as Sonic games go.


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