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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#78426: Jun 10th 2024 at 11:57:58 AM

I figured the Shadow stage's music were remixes. The Radical Highway section was more dubstep-y than I'd expect Generations to sound considering it's age.

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#78427: Jun 10th 2024 at 12:26:00 PM

So folks, do you think that hub world is meant to be Soleanna?

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#78428: Jun 10th 2024 at 12:30:07 PM

Its giving me some Soleanna vibes too, yeah.

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ImmaLelouch (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78429: Jun 10th 2024 at 12:38:29 PM

Edit: Someone already posted the first link. NINJAED.

The Ark music was a placeholder in that one video everyone's seen. Actually song is a remix of Final Rush. This video has clearer audio.

Next link has Fadel show more alternate paths disproving the Forces 2.0 claims.

https://x.com/GamesCage_/status/1799991205733786047

Edited by ImmaLelouch on Jun 10th 2024 at 12:39:40 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#78430: Jun 10th 2024 at 1:01:24 PM

[up]Don't you mean Espio'ed?

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#78431: Jun 10th 2024 at 1:02:08 PM

Throws brick

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#78432: Jun 10th 2024 at 1:04:56 PM

[up]

<Ducks that brick>

...so. It's been you all along. I should have known.

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#78433: Jun 10th 2024 at 1:07:33 PM

Bad jokers need to be exterminated.

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#78434: Jun 10th 2024 at 1:09:24 PM

This thread is a Shadow of its former self. The posters tried to strike gold, but couldn't even make it to Silver. If this continues, I will be leaving this fandom at Super Sonic speeds. Amy.

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#78435: Jun 10th 2024 at 2:53:29 PM

I'm still miffed that Generations didn't use the Time Stones for the plot :V

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#78436: Jun 10th 2024 at 3:02:54 PM

Don't those only work in Little Planet?

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#78437: Jun 10th 2024 at 6:16:08 PM

There are like 5-6 different magical jewel sets in this universe it is impossible to keep track of which works where.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#78438: Jun 10th 2024 at 7:06:01 PM

That technically false. Through the franchise we have

Then we have a variety of not-green single gems in the form of...

  • The Warp Topaz
  • The Phantom Ruby
  • and the Precioustone

those of the once I'm thinking up off the top of my head besides the Time Stones.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jun 10th 2024 at 7:07:19 AM

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#78439: Jun 10th 2024 at 7:22:35 PM

I have a hunch this game is going to confirm my theory that Shadow is the only person that fully recalls the events of Sonic 06.

Which makes him being the first to sense Sonic was in real danger in Forces make A LOT of sense, ie preventing a repeat of Mephiles’ assassination.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#78440: Jun 10th 2024 at 7:28:13 PM

...why?

There's no thematic relevance for him to remember anything about that game, nor any logical reason anyone other than Sonic would.

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#78441: Jun 10th 2024 at 8:12:06 PM

[up][up][up]I'm gonna regret this but what in the hell are the Anarchy Beryls?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#78442: Jun 10th 2024 at 8:13:46 PM

[up] Archie's mirror-universe version of the Chaos Emeralds. They gave Scourge a larger power boost than the regular ones but left him tired and burnt out when it wore off, while the Emeralds leave Sonic energized even when they wear off.

Ian accidentally referenced them in a Forces comic cause he forgot he'd already used the name.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Jun 10th 2024 at 11:14:16 AM

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#78443: Jun 10th 2024 at 8:28:11 PM

When I was thinking of a crossover with Mario, I had it in my head at the name of the Dimension Diamond that Bower and Eggman used to cause havock as an excuse to crossover the two series.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#78444: Jun 11th 2024 at 1:30:35 AM

That's pretty ugly...Sonic has the drop dash, but he does it after the jump dash.

Such an awkward way to implement a feature.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#78445: Jun 11th 2024 at 2:37:43 AM

@ the Shadow the Hedgehog canon route:

... there is no canon route. I've looked through it, and it's impossible.

Shadow needs to visit The Doom (in the Japanese version one of Doom's quotes here during the Last Story voice memory sequence), Mad Matrix (Charmy learns Shadow's epic hacking technique here), Death Ruins (the only stage where Black Doom mentions the ritual of prosperity early where Shadow isn't on his side), Iron Jungle (Eggman says Shadow's an android here), Space Gadget (Shadow's quote is in the voice memory sequence), Cosmic Fall (the only time he and the GUN Commander meet face to face, and where the GUN Commander drops his hatred of Shadow), and either Black Comet or Final Haunt (since the Last Story starts with Shadow on the Black Comet)

And not a single one of the 10 endings could have happened, since Shadow hasn't had an epiphany about who he actually is

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#78446: Jun 11th 2024 at 2:53:58 AM

Apparently the proper sequence is Neutral-Neutral-Dark-Hero-Hero-Dark.

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#78447: Jun 11th 2024 at 3:05:53 AM

I agree with Numbuh, the whole "Choose 6 stages to be your path" is a gameplay mechanic, not intended to be the actual story unfolding. I think the same of most stages ending with Shadow collecting a Chaos Emerald. He can just be assumed to gather those throughout the journey, when doesn't really matter.

I think what stages are "canon" has a lot of wiggle room. Allowing for those story beats you mentioned, I think its still possible other stages are "canon" as well. Though what stages are canon aren't really as important as what story is covered there.


Edit: That path makes a lot of assumptions about how the story unfolds. If you HAVE to pick "6 stages and that's literally Shadow's entire journey" then that's a mostly solid route, but having it end on the ARK and not the Black Comet is sloppy. And in context, a battle between Shadow and Eggman in the ARK after they've just had a bit where Eggman claimed Shadow is an Android, but now wouldn't be claiming such anymore, doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

Of course, some story contraindications likely are inevitable. Thinking on it... I'm not actually sure it matters if Shadow meets the GUN Commander or not? I know that seems weird if they didn't, but Gerald's message about the Black Comet is broadcast seemingly everywhere (even the Black Comet, some how), so Shadow still gets his "name cleared" by the end. And I know its kind of fun to think that Expert Mode leads into Shadow joining GUN, and the GUN Commander apologizes "for earlier" but there's a number of continuity issues if you try to take Expert Mode too canonically.

Edited by diddyknux on Jun 11th 2024 at 5:24:03 AM

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#78448: Jun 11th 2024 at 6:19:41 AM

The Master Emerald has been merged with the green Chaos Emerald in Sonic The Comic.

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ImmaLelouch (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78449: Jun 11th 2024 at 7:23:04 AM

To me, the only thing canon are the games and the Japanese creator statements. Also, don't take things like Sonic Twitter Takeover seriously like Infinite having a Sonadow folder, or Shadow's favorite anime being KLK because of memes.

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#78450: Jun 11th 2024 at 7:38:20 AM

[up]I don't think anybody actually takes "Shadow eats coffee beans straight" seriously. Other than that, I think canon can only be defined in terms of relative to each branch of the franchise. Like, the games are canon to the IDW comics, but the comics aren't canon to the games.

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