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taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78376: Jun 8th 2024 at 2:32:53 PM

That's what i'm asking myself too — it'd be cool but something tells me no, it's only exclusive to this game cause of Black doom awakening it himself and shadow will lose it at the end of the game or something.

Speaking of, according to Iizuka — Shadow's stuff is a separate campaign that can be accessed at any time

Edited by taotruths on Jun 8th 2024 at 2:33:16 AM

Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#78377: Jun 8th 2024 at 2:35:28 PM

That's good. I want the new stuff first.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#78378: Jun 8th 2024 at 2:39:03 PM

Between this and SMT Vengeance. I have to wonder if SEGA are on a "lets re release games with new campaigns" kick now.

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#78379: Jun 8th 2024 at 2:44:11 PM

[up][up][up] Accessed at any time, huh? Good, that means I can play it without touching the base game.

Edited by mstorzil on Jun 8th 2024 at 2:44:39 AM

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Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#78380: Jun 8th 2024 at 2:49:23 PM

Finally watching the gameplay trailer, the Shadow space level seems to be a mashup of all the levels that used those assets; Final Rush, Final Chase and The ARK from Shadow. The music in particular is from The ARK.

Edited by Sid-Starkiller on Jun 8th 2024 at 5:55:17 AM

Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#78381: Jun 8th 2024 at 2:54:43 PM

I'm not impressed so far. But considering it's adapting some of my least favorite Sonic games using present-day things that I also don't like, my opinions are definitely biased.

  • The ARK stage still looks like an expanded version of Forces and Cyber Space's "large platforms linked by grind rails" level design, although considering most of the ARK stages in SA2 and Shadow had "small platforms linked by grind rails" level design it's probably a "pick your poison" thing. At least there don't seem to be any 2.5D segments.
  • I'm not sold on the aesthetics either. The ARK was very vivid in SA2 and still had some color in Shadow. The muted color scheme here reminds me a bit of Egg Gate from Forces. Radical Highway (?) is a bit too heavy on the Red Sky, Take Warning for my taste, but I think it's trying to be reminiscent of Shadow's first meeting with Black Doom so it fits. The Alien Geometries are a neat twist though. A Journey to the Center of the Mind maybe?
  • Kirk Thornton's voice is frequently drowned out by the music, but what I did hear still sounds awkward. Not "You got this Sonic"-tier, but there's something about it that seems...forced? Meanwhile, I think they overdid the reverb on Black Doom's voice.
  • The Biolizard fight looks pretty good. I'm happy they didn't do a 1:1 recreation of the boss I fought 20 years ago.
That said, the stuff I've seen apart from this trailer does look intriguing and it's kind of unfair to judge based on just ~5 minutes of new footage, so I'm not going to judge too harshly.

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#78382: Jun 8th 2024 at 4:30:27 PM

The background music drowns out Shadow and Black Doom, so it's hard to get a make of them.

The Biolizard looks gross. Extra years have really helped sell its prototype nature.

I need a loop of that Radical Highway remix STAT.

Too early to make a real judgment on this though. Biolizard was really the only part that showcased the most of Shadow's gameplay.

Edited by erazor0707 on Jun 8th 2024 at 6:43:15 AM

taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78384: Jun 8th 2024 at 5:50:34 PM

I love that black arms symbol animation

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#78385: Jun 8th 2024 at 6:06:29 PM

...weird that one of the animations is just him collecting his own emblem.

Weirder, even, is that the animation of him collecting his emblem is not for the "S" rank.

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ImmaLelouch (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78386: Jun 8th 2024 at 6:09:40 PM

Full Ark level S rank.

https://x.com/GamesCage_/status/1799600644443308253

Edited by ImmaLelouch on Jun 8th 2024 at 6:10:03 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#78388: Jun 8th 2024 at 8:11:31 PM

EDIT: NVM

How are people finding out about the full boss fights and stuff so early?

There's some kinda "Bonus Play Station-Exclusive Prologue Animations" on the website...seems kinda sketchy.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Jun 8th 2024 at 11:14:29 AM

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erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#78389: Jun 8th 2024 at 8:13:15 PM

[up][up][up]

>multiple paths

Say no more.

Edited by erazor0707 on Jun 8th 2024 at 10:13:23 AM

taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78390: Jun 8th 2024 at 8:15:49 PM

[up][up]Live Demos at Summer Game Fest

Edited by taotruths on Jun 8th 2024 at 8:15:59 AM

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#78391: Jun 8th 2024 at 8:43:13 PM

In another decade, I'm expecting Sonic x Shadow x Silver Generations.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#78392: Jun 8th 2024 at 8:59:55 PM

What stages would Silver pull from besides O6?

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#78393: Jun 8th 2024 at 9:06:24 PM

Sonic Rivals? And, uh...

Sonic Rivals 2...

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taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#78395: Jun 8th 2024 at 9:28:06 PM

Heck I'm waiting for Silver's own game.

I like games with telekinesis (or I guess in Silver's case psychokinesis, which is apparently something different)—they got cool physics, cool visual effects...

But I wouldn't know who would be Silver's enemy. Sonic fights robots, Shadow fights aliens...

Maybe Silver fights interdimensional invaders? Or is that just aliens with extra steps.

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taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#78397: Jun 8th 2024 at 11:16:03 PM

Apologies for the double-post but Sean Chiplock has confirmed it ain't him as Black Doom either, though he does acknowledge that his impersonation/inspiration was spot-on (ie. Noob Saibot)

Fans have also managed to transcribe the two pages seen in Gerald’s Diary seen in the pre order screen

Edited by taotruths on Jun 8th 2024 at 11:45:27 AM

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#78398: Jun 9th 2024 at 2:43:12 AM

From what I saw:

1. The Ark seems to be an amalgam of The Ark, Final Chase, and Space Gadget. Possibly some Lost Impact in there too.

This is BIG because it suggests Shadow the Hedgehog’s canon route is either semi hero or pure hero at stage 5.

2. City looks like an amalgam of Radical Highway and Westopolis via time bending shenanigans.

3. Biolizard has taken some serious design cues from Shin Godzilla. Either form 2 or form 3.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#78399: Jun 9th 2024 at 5:38:03 AM

Pretty sure the word "canon" just shouldn't be used or applied to Sonic games anymore.

It hasn't mattered since Sonic Adventure.

TheDarkMantis Shadow Bug from Ocean of Storms Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

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