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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#77976: May 16th 2024 at 11:27:23 PM

You're kidding right?

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#77977: May 16th 2024 at 11:41:13 PM

That's the only thing people really talk about.

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Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#77978: May 17th 2024 at 4:01:30 AM

Without saying how it's allegedly better?

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#77979: May 17th 2024 at 4:49:30 AM

I found this really awesome short animation that was recently uploaded, covering the final battle of The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog between Mirage Express and Sonic in his captain's outfit.

Gave it a look. Could be a bit more dynamic but yeah it was pretty good.

Sorry this post got ignored but when it comes to topics of the day people really hyperfocus on it.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#77980: May 17th 2024 at 10:16:14 AM

The main controversy with the Japanese version is that the scenes were rewritten rather than merely translated, and it's (apparently, I don't speak Japanese) resulting in bizarre changes occasionally outright missing plot details that create confusion.

But the optional side conversations are not like that they're translated almost too literally, resulting in clunky and awkward dialogue (to the extent that people initially assumed that they were machine translated (they weren't))

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#77982: May 17th 2024 at 10:51:00 AM

[up]Translation purists won't like this. [lol]

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#77983: May 17th 2024 at 10:51:53 AM

I don't recall the side conversations between Sonic and others being like that, but the Eggman logs you fish up at Big's ponds definitely are. They have that overly direct translation quality to them where the grammar is stilted and there's weird vocabulary choices like they picked the first thing out of an Eng>Jap dictionary. It's actually kind of hard for me to read unless I mentally replace all the words with direct English equivalents and then I understand what it's saying (I've encountered this sort of thing before with the Japanese translations of Sonic Chronicles and Metroid Prime). The voice acting for the logs sounds bad too, like Eggman's VA was given a single take to read the script into the mic without knowing what if any emotion he was supposed to be expressing.

The rest of the game isn't like that, but I think a big problem with the rest stems from it being written by the game's director Kishimoto, and as far I can tell he's never had a writing credit before and it shows. Characters don't always keep their style of speaking straight with how they usually talk or how they address others, and conversations or lines can be really odd.

There's a particular line from Tails in the game's opening cutscene when they're starting to crash on the island, where in English he just says "Woah! There's some kind of atmospheric charge! Hang on!" while in Japanese he says something like "Woah! The results of the controls are being altered by a power field that ignores the laws of physics! The differences in logic are manifesting and falling into the depths of causality!" It sounds just as awkward in Japanese, and it sounds like Tails' VA is struggling to fit it all within the time the English line took, and it very clearly doesn't match Tails's lip flaps. That's probably the most extreme example, but some other lines in the game are similarly awkward.

That's on top of what information is being conveyed being changed in some conversations, which could be argued about.

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#77984: May 17th 2024 at 10:56:58 AM

Would this game being like, the only example of the sub vs dub debate where the English version is the one prefered?

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diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#77985: May 17th 2024 at 11:06:00 AM

If the story was originally written in english first, that would make the Japanese version the "dub."

But no, it wouldn't be.

Edited by diddyknux on May 17th 2024 at 1:07:35 PM

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#77987: May 17th 2024 at 11:45:26 AM

I know some translations by like Windii try to punch it up and make it more clear, but I think that exacerbates the debate sometimes.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#77988: May 18th 2024 at 3:42:57 PM

when you go hard and commit to the bit

Been binge watching this retrospective on Archie sonic by Lowart and decided to share this masterpiece of bit with you

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ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#77989: May 18th 2024 at 4:10:24 PM

Is that video seriously three hours long.

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#77992: May 18th 2024 at 5:11:52 PM

Never understimate the passion fans have. Freakzoid mocked this thing.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#77993: May 18th 2024 at 7:07:49 PM

Professor Gerald, in his quest to create a cure for cancer... created a giant bio-organic lizard, and a goth hedgehog.

That's all well and good but how badly did he eff up that the Biolizard itself ended up with what appear to be giant purple, cancerous masses all over its body. Do lizards even have cancer? Can a lizard get cancer? Did he invent a lizard-form of cancer just to cure Maria?

Not to mention that whole boss fight is basically punching a living creature in its lymph nodes until it died.

Edited by FOFD on May 23rd 2024 at 6:55:44 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#77994: May 18th 2024 at 7:25:57 PM

Eh. It probably deserved it.

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#77995: May 18th 2024 at 8:19:35 PM

[up][up] Yeah, lizards can get cancer (supposedly, reptiles develop it at about the same rates as birds and mammals). So yeah, Super Sonic and Super Shadow were probably hitting the Finalhazard in its inflamed, tumor-filled lymph nodes at high speed.

Edited by TrashJack on May 18th 2024 at 11:20:12 AM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#77996: May 18th 2024 at 9:19:13 PM

Biolizard needed the life support system because it was Gerald's first, imperfect attempt. Hence why he made the deal for Black Doom's blood.

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#77997: May 19th 2024 at 8:06:05 AM

Guys, you give me the idea the Biolizard had cancer and now I feel bad for that thing.

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#77998: May 19th 2024 at 8:09:34 AM

Would it be putting it and Gerald’s revenge out of its misery?

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#77999: May 19th 2024 at 9:01:45 AM

Anyone remember the Egg Wyvern from Sonic 06? I like the death animation where Eggman falls from the sky in his chair, and he bounces off debris like a Gmod prob. That shit is hilarious.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on May 19th 2024 at 12:07:34 PM

Once Upon A Time.
FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78000: May 19th 2024 at 10:31:03 AM

[1]

Why do you think I clipped a bit of it... from the first Thirty Minutes

Its a Comic retrospective on all of Archie... you realize how long Archie Sonic ran. 1992-2016

290 issues! -and thats not counting specials and the Knuckles comic!' and even at full length He is still skeeming over stuff!

Though if you have an afternoon to kill I'd suggest giving it a watch.

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on May 19th 2024 at 10:32:08 AM

Praise be to the absolute Queen

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