Just because Frontiers was good doesn't mean it didn't have tons of issues that could and should be improved.
It was a great first attempt at the new gameplay style (definitely a better first attempt than Unleashed or Lost World), but it was still very clearly a first attempt. The whole point of games like Frontiers is to set up a template that they can then hone into something even better.
X6 Oh no. Frontiers rocked and is a return to form for 3D sonic.
But it still has some wonky gameplay in some places, does it not?
I'm saying they need to take what worked, and improve upon it. We know they're making sure not to rush their games anymore, so all they need to do is find any flaws in frontier and work on improving those.
They made a good game, now is the chance to make a better game.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Apr 21st 2024 at 5:53:37 AM
One Strip! One Strip!So hey, good news, Sega's got a nice base to launch off of with Sonic Frontiers! Got a good feeling about Sonic games going forward.
Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.I mean, maybe the point is that while pointing the flaws can be fine, it shouldn't take a damn page long to state why instead of the positives. Ergo, Accentuate the Negative should be less frequent in here.
"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."It's a stretch to call any of these reactions Accentuate the Negative, so no.
Again, I have to reiterate that an excited reaction to how a sequel can improve on the first game and slamming the first game are not the same thing, and acknowledgement that the first game had things that could be be improved shouldn't be treated that way in the first place.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:30:53 AM
Oh man. A Frontiers-style reinvention of one of the Classic game-worlds with all of the Zones translated into different regions of this vast BOTW-esque map would be Shut Up and Take My Money hype all on its own.
Imagine getting to visit the long-destroyed ruins of the Death Egg. (Pretty sure its final resting place is Angel Island, which means it's chilling out just offscreen any time Knux is doing his thing.)
Sonic duking it out with Metal Sonic only for a half-destroyed, shredded and tattered Mecha Sonic to activate and crawl out of the ruins like a robot zombie.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 22nd 2024 at 6:42:31 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It might seem like these posts are Accentuate the Negative, but I'd argue they're a testament to how well liked Frontiers was. All of these posts are expressing excitement towards a sequel specifically because they thought Frontiers was good, but with some things to improve and build off of. That's partly what makes the idea of a sequel so exciting, for me at least, Frontiers was incredible, with fun gameplay, an engaging story, great writing of characters (with Knuckles and Tails especially feeling like returns to form), so imagine how great it would be if it was built on and improved further.
Funnily enough, if Sonic Team commits to the IDW comics being canon, we do have a canon continuation for Mecha Sonic.
It's actually a fun opposite to Metal Sonic's story, where he's abandoned by Eggman for being a failure, but (minus a couple programming hitchups) builds his own new life as the guardian of a community of other abandoned robots. Whereas Metal Sonic's approach to abuse and abandonment at Eggman's hands is generally to redouble down on his hatred.
And, oh man. Seeing Scrapnik Island in a game would be freaking amazing.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:25:26 AM
Scrapnik Island as a horror game would be pretty cool.
"That we continue to persist at all is a testament to our faith in one another."https://www.cbr.com/line-it-is-drawn-sonic-and-friends-week/
Tony Stark building Metal Sonic is something I didn't know I needed.

I know what could be the best thing to add to the next sonic open world, more characters, the world in frontiers felt really empty, an open world in my opinion is more interesting when it was people, towns and cities to explore rather than just empty plains with nothing but enemies, some walking rocks and your friends in cyber ghost form.