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TheDarkMantis Shadow Bug from Ocean of Storms Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
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#77376: Mar 1st 2024 at 12:18:24 PM

One thing I disliked about Superstars was the inconsistent OST. It flip flops between Genesis-style music and modern instrumental music similar to Tee Lopes' stuff. Which feels really odd, almost as if the Genesis tracks are placeholders that never got taken out.

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#77377: Mar 1st 2024 at 2:51:27 PM

That's because the game had two composers: Jun Senoue (who composed the classic stuff) and Tee Lopes themselves.

TheDarkMantis Shadow Bug from Ocean of Storms Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
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#77378: Mar 1st 2024 at 3:18:22 PM

If that's the case, then I say they should have just let Tee Lopes do the entire soundtrack, instead of constantly swapping between the two.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#77379: Mar 1st 2024 at 4:04:36 PM

It wouldn't have really been a problem if it sounded better...

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Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#77380: Mar 1st 2024 at 7:00:50 PM

Or if, get this, they let Jun Senoue actually use non-Genesis soundchip instruments. When he's allowed to cook with higher quality instruments, he creates straight up gold.

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Edited by Ego-Man25 on Mar 1st 2024 at 7:02:41 AM

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ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#77381: Mar 3rd 2024 at 2:09:22 PM

Superstars actually had a lot of different composers, but you can tell the Jun tracks right off the bat (and the ones he composed, but got rearranged by other composers). It's Sega's fault though for getting Jun to do the OST when they had plenty of evidence that it was not his forte.

Sega's doing a lot better with the franchise for sure, but they still do a lot of things that make you raise an eyebrow. Like I don't understand why they thought Superstars was going to perform well in Japan just because Frontiers did.

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#77383: Mar 3rd 2024 at 3:57:44 PM

Overconfidence after Frontiers did.

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#77384: Mar 3rd 2024 at 4:17:14 PM

Part of it was a general misunderstanding of how certain regions respond to Sonic. Japan has much less attachment and reverence towards Classic Sonic given the underperformance of the Master System and Mega Drive. And putting it against 2D Mario, which the country utterly adores about as strongly if not more than the West? That's just setting it up for failure.

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#77385: Mar 4th 2024 at 6:31:10 PM

When Sonic 3 gets its trope page, we all know the Maria Casting Reveal is a shoe in for Crowning Moment Of Funny.

There’s taking the jokes about Maria’s death in stride. Then there’s being in on the jokes and having fun with them. Alayla Brown took it to the next level by one upping the fans with the “Body Bag Joke”.

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#77386: Mar 5th 2024 at 12:58:46 AM

[up]Pretty sure that violates No Meta Moments.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#77387: Mar 5th 2024 at 1:20:04 PM

Jun Senoue was good with chiptunes 30 years ago. He then spent years using actual instruments, and trying to emulate the old style... just doesn't work.

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#77388: Mar 6th 2024 at 12:45:28 PM

[up][up] Real shame, cause I was at ground zero for that. The Sonic fandom was collectively in stiches laughing their butts off at the whole thing, so it objectively meets the criteria for CMOF.

On a serious note, we did get indirect confirmation of Maria getting shot being handleded “Hitchcock Style” by the actress herself during that Instagram casting reveal.

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#77389: Mar 7th 2024 at 10:14:19 PM

I forgot, what's Hitchcock style again?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#77390: Mar 7th 2024 at 11:09:32 PM

Indirect, with no actual onscreen violence, just implication and character reactions.

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#77391: Mar 8th 2024 at 12:45:21 AM

I don't know if I like "Hitchcock Style" as way to describe it, because "Hitchcock Style" could mean different things.

Like, when I think Hitchcock Style, I think of his thoughts on Dramatic Tension; Giving the audience information that the characters don't know to escalate the audience's feelings of suspense. The example being having a bomb hidden under a table that the audience knows is counting down to detonation, but the characters don't even know is there.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#77392: Mar 8th 2024 at 8:43:27 AM

I think it's fine. You can tell by context that people are talking about Hitchcock's style of making death / violent scenes, not Hitchcock's filmmaking style in general.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#77393: Mar 8th 2024 at 8:34:28 PM

Apparently Dragon Ball influenced the franchise beyond Super Sonic and the scattering 7 emeralds: A Sonic 2 designer said that the Sonic and Tails bond was influenced by the Piccolo and Gohan bond, and drew the Sonic pair in the style of those two to honor the late Akira Toriyama.

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#77394: Mar 8th 2024 at 9:48:37 PM

I'd never considered that Tails was designed to be Gohan but it makes perfect sense.

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ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#77395: Mar 9th 2024 at 7:22:30 AM

Never knew that. But when I saw that pic, I was definitely like shouldn't that be Knuckles instead of Sonic tongue

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#77396: Mar 9th 2024 at 7:39:35 AM

I always figured that Tails was the gohan but never thought about Sonic being the Piccolo.

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#77397: Mar 9th 2024 at 8:13:24 AM

People were too distracted by Knuckles similarities with Piccolo to notice.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#77398: Mar 9th 2024 at 10:58:27 AM

Also, Piccolo isn't the one with a Golden Super Mode

wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#77399: Mar 9th 2024 at 11:05:17 AM

I gave in and bought Sonic Frontiers from the Play Station Store for PS4.

Edited by wooden-ladybug93 on Mar 9th 2024 at 7:22:18 AM

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#77400: Mar 11th 2024 at 10:46:36 AM

I beat that game 5 times. I love it! I hope you end up liking it.

There's a big difference between the Steam reviews it got (it was Overwhelmingly Positive for weeks after release) and the professional reviews. One professional review has an excerpt saying, "There are no redeeming features in this game." Umm... okay? I certainly disagree there.


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