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erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#76376: Nov 20th 2023 at 7:38:03 PM

Yeah, I ended up going through the DLC without doing the new versions of the minibosses much.

Even fully leveled and upgraded, doing Tower+ took like twenty minutes of grinding the boss down and by that point I just lost interest and walked away.

I got my revenge with Sonic, so it's all good. Though, it's quite telling it took the character I'm most comfortable with and has maxed out stats.

Yeah... Right at the start of the DLC I stumbled in to Caterpillar+ with Amy. Noped my way back out of there and didn't bother.

And to think, even without the fishing minigame, because of how busted powerful the starfall is, you don't actually need to fight any of the Guardians+ or even do the Cyberspace stages. But I'm going to anyway as Sonic at some point.

Yeah, I was shocked at how the starfall basically gift-wraps you stats. I guess it's necessary when you suddenly have three more characters, fresh out the box, in a DLC with a difficulty bump.

Edited by erazor0707 on Nov 20th 2023 at 9:40:48 AM

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#76377: Nov 20th 2023 at 8:21:12 PM

I guess Sonic the Hedgehog 2 was supposed to be similar to Sonic CD with the whole time traveling aspect. I guess that's why Sonic CD ended up taking over the time travel aspect since Sonic 2 didn't do it.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76378: Nov 21st 2023 at 1:03:09 AM

I guess there's an alternate timeline somewhere (no pun intended) where Sonic became a time travel centric series, with time traveling to variant stages becoming a staple of the franchise.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#76379: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:08:13 AM

Yeah the Another Story guardians really exemplify that Sonic Team do not know how to make an action game. Spider+'s central mechanic is extremely cheap, Silver Hammer+ moves too fast to feasibly keep track of, and Tank+ is just garbage.

It's telling that only Master Ninja+ and (mostly...) Caterpillar+ are the only okay Guardians here (besides Ghost+, which is more of a platforming challenge anyways).

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#76380: Nov 21st 2023 at 4:46:29 AM

Oddly enough Sonic 2 and CD were done at the same time and had similar ideas at first, but elements of it were shared by both versions.

Makes me imagine that there were plans for a robot Sonic in the first game, but then the two different staffs worked on it in different ways. It's not out of left-field, as a proto-Amy existed in the drafts, I think.

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#76381: Nov 21st 2023 at 9:43:23 AM

Dream Team opening.

Looks like Cream will have a special story role. She may even be the one dreaming? Also, Eggy seems to have learned some of those demented stretching powers from that one Sonic Forces level.

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#76382: Nov 21st 2023 at 11:20:07 AM

Accordign to early previews, Eggman is using Cream's dream as a conduit I believe, so yeah. Cream is pretty integral to this one.

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#76383: Nov 21st 2023 at 11:21:49 AM

Yeah the Another Story guardians really exemplify that Sonic Team do not know how to make an action game. Spider+'s central mechanic is extremely cheap, Silver Hammer+ moves too fast to feasibly keep track of, and Tank+ is just garbage.

Ugh. Tank I already struggled with. Can't imagine how much more BS its upgraded version is.

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#76384: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:54:20 PM

Accordign to early previews, Eggman is using Cream's dream as a conduit I believe, so yeah. Cream is pretty integral to this one.

Well then. Lets wait for Kaotic Kaine to hear about this one. That's going to be one happy troper.cool

Edit: Also, this is the second time Rouge is being added into the Sonic / Tails / Knuckles / Amy foursome.

It's nice to see her getting shit to do...but RIP Team Dark eh?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 21st 2023 at 2:55:42 AM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#76385: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:57:04 PM

I wonder if the Sonic Shuffle characters will cameo or at least get namedropped.

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#76386: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:11:20 PM

[up][up] Technically the third with Sonic X, where Sonic, Rouge and Knuckles were essentially the aces of the aliens.

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#76387: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:16:52 PM

I see they're finally using the Sonic in dreams concept from before Sonic 1, that was initially used to make Nights.

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#76388: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:35:14 PM

[up][up] Technically the third with Sonic X, where Sonic, Rouge and Knuckles were essentially the aces of the aliens.

Not to mention, Sonic, Tails, Cream, Knuckles, Amy, and Rouge (who are all playable characters in Dream Team) were the only main Sonic cast characters on that anime's earth for a bit until the Chaotix and Shadow eventually entered the picture.

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#76389: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:45:33 PM

I wonder if the others are here because Cream called for them, consciously or subconsciously.

"EVERYONE'S LITTLE SISTER IS IN DANGER!" is definitely something that would cause most of the cast to come running to the rescue.

(Rouge has had some moments with Cream, before anyone complains they've never interacted.)

Emerl didn't show because, naturally, he does not sleep.

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#76390: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:56:14 PM

Gemerl, and unfortunately he and Omega can't sleep of anthropomorfic sheeps who may or may not be evil.

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#76391: Nov 21st 2023 at 6:10:14 PM

[up][up]The last time I thought of a situation where a group of characters drop everything because "EVERYONE'S LITTLE SISTER IS IN DANGER!", it was how the Black Eagles or Golden Deer make special note to look out for Lysithea.

Insert Cream angrily pouting "I'm not a kid!" before demanding sweets... which she's named after... and she's one of the shortest cast members...
Has anyone ever seen Cream and Lysithea in the same room at the same time?

Edit: Lysithea got her own page? And several other students did too? Is that really necessary?! (Well, I know Lysithea's one of the most popular characters. Her having her own page doesn't surprise me as much as certain other characters.)

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Nov 21st 2023 at 8:22:27 AM

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#76392: Nov 21st 2023 at 6:14:09 PM

Rouge has likely never even talked to Cream before...

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#76393: Nov 21st 2023 at 6:30:13 PM

Goddamn it Randomness read the comics.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Nov 21st 2023 at 2:30:21 PM

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#76394: Nov 21st 2023 at 6:39:02 PM

@Handsome Rob- Oh, I've already heard about it ever since Ian unofficially confirmed Cream's story-important role on BumbleKast lol And I'm very freaking happy!

I would say more, but last time I talked about Cream, I got freaking hollered with my post getting thumped for daring to talk about her a little bit much. So... I'll not talk about it then.

Edited by KaoticKanine on Nov 21st 2023 at 9:39:56 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76395: Nov 21st 2023 at 6:58:39 PM

What're the odds there's a NIGHTs cameo somewhere in Dream Team?

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#76396: Nov 21st 2023 at 7:55:59 PM

[up][up][up]...Archie?

I'm aware of that, but I also just disregard outside material regardless of familiarity.

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#76397: Nov 21st 2023 at 8:40:51 PM

[up] I believe they're referring to IDW, where there's an arc dedicated to Chao Racing that involves Rouge, Cream, and Amy working together in the A-plot

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#76398: Nov 21st 2023 at 8:50:15 PM

I've seen that...

Interaction was still pretty sparse.

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#76399: Nov 22nd 2023 at 8:35:08 AM

Well, a rundown from that sparce interaction is Rouge being the cool single sassy aunt, and she being afraid of Vanilla.

I'm sure you could do more, but we talking of two really different characters.

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#76400: Nov 22nd 2023 at 9:00:05 AM

[up][up] Aye, that's one of the factors that makes me really dislike that arc. CR&BB's premise and solicits made it appear to be a story focused on Amy, Cream, and Rouge and allow us to see their dynamic as a trio. But we ultimately only got a tiny handful of actual interactions before the story shifted to be more about Shadow, Starline, and Belle. Not helped at all by Gemerl being included as a fourth wheel to the group and cutting into any further interactions between Amy and Rouge with Cream.


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