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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76001: Oct 16th 2023 at 4:37:40 PM

the deep voice made me think 'thats totally 'shadow'

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76002: Oct 16th 2023 at 10:31:34 PM

So reviews for Sonic Superstars are pretty low.

6/10 on Steam for example.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#76003: Oct 16th 2023 at 10:46:15 PM

Yeah, the game's doing pretty great...

But it ain't no revolution.

In fact, it's held back by the gameplay.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76004: Oct 16th 2023 at 10:47:22 PM

Very big ooof.

I'll see if I like it if I do get it.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 17th 2023 at 1:47:37 AM

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#76005: Oct 16th 2023 at 11:29:41 PM

According to the Steam reviews, the developers ended up hard-coding the Epic Game Store log-in checks into the game so even when you buy it from Steam it asks you for your Epic account every time you start up the game lol.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76006: Oct 16th 2023 at 11:42:48 PM

Seems like it's a safe bet to get the game on Switch.

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Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#76007: Oct 17th 2023 at 12:25:44 AM

[up][up] According to the comments in this Reddit post, the Epic Games Store check installs Epic Online Services for Steam/Epic crossplay compatibility. If you uninstall Epic Online Services, the game will work just fine (presumably apart from Battle Mode) and you won't be nagged again. There's also a small X in the top right of the screen outside the window you can click to close the window, but I'm not sure if it's a permanent solution or not.

On a related note, if Sonic City's Review Round-Up is any indication, co-op is the worst part of Superstars' gameplay. Otherwise, most journalists agree it's a solid but flawed 2D Sonic game.

Edited by Negacube on Oct 17th 2023 at 3:38:05 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76008: Oct 17th 2023 at 1:06:02 AM

Got it on PS 5, have played a couple of the

Pretty good. On a basic level, it's your the same sort of classic Sonic experience you'd expect from your average side Sonic platformer. It's no Mania, but it's also not as bland as Sonic 4-1 was. Maybe a bit better than Sonic 4-2, which - make no mistake - I found to be a pretty decent game.

It's very... busy, though, to the point of each level having an almost distracting amount of mechanics in them (running into a problem I remember having with Unleashed that you end up running through the levels so fast that most of the mechanics in the level just kind of pass by unnoticed), which makes me suspect that like Frontiers it was in part a "throw a bunch of concepts in to see if they work for future reference" project. The game not only has a lot of gameplay mechanics per level, there's a lot of new experimental ideas for the franchise like having a bunch of hidden objects throughout the level that can be used as currencies elsewhere, the Emerald super moves, and of course the co-op (which I haven't tried yet and won't be able to for a while).

The boss design so far hits the "creatively designed, but easy" vibe that Sonic CD had.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 17th 2023 at 1:06:28 AM

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Movie and TV Goddess
#76009: Oct 17th 2023 at 1:51:44 AM

It has some pretty high ratings on Metacritic though with a score of a 76.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#76010: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:04:17 AM

@Red Hunter: Going by your post on the bottom of the last page, you might be accentuating the negative. If you actually read or watch reviews, the game is consistently well liked, with the only major issue being the lack of rewards outside of cosmetics, and the multiplayer being flawed. Even if going off of the Steam reviews, the reviews are generally very positive, with the exception of the ones that only gave it a negative response because it requests you open the Epic store. That's not an issue with the game itself.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76011: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:05:41 AM

Wait, I was kidding. I thought the emoticon made it clear. sad That post was a joke.

I'm still getting the game after all. And will probably enjoy it.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 17th 2023 at 11:06:13 PM

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#76012: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:31:49 AM

I just saw footage of Trip's final boss and... Oh. My. Lord. That fight against Fang takes freaking forever, it looks to be the absolute most tedious final boss in the series, aside from HD Time Eater. Definitely not helped by the fact that you'll have to redo the entire thing all over again if you die from even the slightest slip up. How is it that this game just keeps looking worse and worse each time I decide to look at some footage? The mech in the 2nd phase looks cool, but that's all the praise it's getting from me.

Edited by mstorzil on Oct 17th 2023 at 8:32:47 AM

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VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#76013: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:35:06 AM

Huh, it's quite funny actually. Sonic Forces was considered aggressively mediocre, and one of the worst 3D Sonic games in a whilenote  whereas Sonic Mania was beloved for understanding why the Genesis games appealed to so many people in contrast to the likes of Sonic the Hedgehog 4.

Now the roles have reversed: Sonic Frontiers, in spite of it's flaws and questionable design choices, ended up being considered one of the best 3D Sonic games in the series whereas Sonic Superstars seems to be considered a mid-tier game that couldn't live up to the expectations set by Sonic Mania.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76014: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:35:23 AM

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#76015: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:42:46 AM

I welcome it, after so many years this feels like vindication and I can play Unleashed, Forces, Black Knight, Lost World, and Frontiers proudly knowing that Modern finally won for once. Wish I could say the same for Rise of Lyric though. Oh well, I still love it just as I did before and will continue to do so.

Edited by mstorzil on Oct 17th 2023 at 8:50:07 AM

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#76016: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:46:50 AM

I'll wait and see the lasting reception before I declare a "winner". Superstars did get the physics right, and there's not anything that would otherwise put off the large contingent of classic fans.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76017: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:47:52 AM

Shouldn't it be better that both versions of Sonic do well instead of a needless competition of classic vs modern?

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#76019: Oct 17th 2023 at 8:48:04 AM

[up]x4 I'd still like to know what you have against Classic Sonic.

There's nothing wrong with not caring for something everyone else cares about, but at this point it feels less like honest complaints and more like needless vitriol.

Edited by kkhohoho on Oct 17th 2023 at 10:48:22 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#76020: Oct 17th 2023 at 9:04:11 AM

My issue with "Classic Sonic" is that this is not approached as if 2 characters:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/i6mtc2t.png

In addition, "Classic Sonic" is pretty much just a recreation of Sonic in the Genesis era, but Sonic had an evolving design in that time, and the Sonic 3 sprite was already evolving into what ended up being the modern design:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/i6mtc2t_7.png

Seriously, 3 is the genesis Sonic I played the most, and the brighter blue of new age Classic just hurts my eyes lol.

Also, I really liked the Advance and Rush games, and I'd rather have modern Sonic play in 2D in games along that style, than in the random 2D segments from the boost games.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#76021: Oct 17th 2023 at 9:08:28 AM

I personally want to know if Fang is playable or not.

Dude is unironically one of my favorite Sonic characters.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76022: Oct 17th 2023 at 9:12:35 AM

Sonic and Mario have distinctly different histories, to note.

Mario doesn't have a "classic" version because there's never been a point in Mario's business and development history where the company explicitly eschewed their previous take on the concept and completely retooled the character. Even after the hop to 3D, the Mario franchise always kept the 2D concepts and mechanics well in hand, both incorporating it into their 3D games and continuing to release 2D games that used its mechanics, ensuring that nothing was lost. There's never been a need for the existence of a "classic" Mario.

Meanwhile, Sonic Team has a distinct habit of completely reinventing itself every few years, and the 3D jump is the most obvious example. Sonic didn't just make the hop to 3D, they wrote (most of) the original games out of continuity, put the original mechanics in a box and only took them out for nostalgic rereleases. This resulted in Classic Sonic becoming far more of its own separate thing from Classic Mario both from the developers' point of view and the fans'.

That's why, in Sonic's case, when they decided to re-embrace their original concept much, much later, they made a much bigger deal out of it and actively created its own section of the franchise.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 17th 2023 at 9:14:04 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#76023: Oct 17th 2023 at 9:13:30 AM

Up until generations, I never saw Classic and Modern as two different worlds, it just felt like one story to me.

I think if we only got classic games, I'd be way more annoyed, but getting both is fine. I just think stuff like Superstars feels very much like they're spinning their wheels.

[up]I don't think this is true. The only game they wrote out of continuity was Knuckles' Chaotix, so they could reintroduce the characters for Heroes. Amy flashes back to CD in Adventure, for one thing.

Edited by Joshbones on Oct 17th 2023 at 9:14:50 AM

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#76024: Oct 17th 2023 at 9:24:00 AM

It looks like it is just Sonic, Tails Knuckles, Amy and the battle robot playable unless there is any unlockables characters.

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ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#76025: Oct 17th 2023 at 9:24:30 AM

[up]There is one, I think Trip is the only one.

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