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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#75851: Oct 7th 2023 at 1:26:27 PM

I do wonder if they will eventually introduce the Phantom Ruby into the IDW comics at some point.

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Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
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#75852: Oct 7th 2023 at 1:38:08 PM

[up]Given IDW's persistent financial troubles and that Sonic isn't even a top seller for them, I rather doubt it.

Maybe if some other company picked the publishing rights up after they finally stop circling the drain and bankrupt.

Edited by Grounder on Oct 7th 2023 at 1:38:40 AM

Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#75853: Oct 7th 2023 at 1:45:36 PM

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I wasn't aware of that, I feel kinda bad now for not buying the comic. The Scrapnik issue was one of their best, I Feel.

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#75854: Oct 7th 2023 at 2:43:56 PM

On a similar note, I don't get why so many say the Deadly Six don't fit the art-style of the series.

All the Sonic characters are cartoon-ish characters with rubber-hose limbs, if anything, they fit more than the realistic people and monsters.

My biggest problem with the Deadly Six is that they can control robots. I feel like they could have been replaced by a team of rebel Eggbots and nothing about the story would change. They have these cool demon designs, why don't they have cool demon powers? They should be using magic and energy blasts, not robots.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 7th 2023 at 2:45:09 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#75855: Oct 7th 2023 at 2:50:16 PM

I mean, they do have other powers. Zadok can grow and breathe fire, for starters. The robot thing is done so they didn't have to make new enemies for the game.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#75856: Oct 7th 2023 at 2:53:53 PM

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Is IDW really going through financial issues? Because, I've seen like a dozen articles about IDW doing badly financially, but the company is still going. So, it's kind of hard for me to really believe those articles. However, the one time where I actually believed IDW's financial situation was when they laid off several editors and that was only because IDW themselves told everyone about that situation.

Edited by Rabbitearsblog on Oct 7th 2023 at 2:54:26 AM

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#75857: Oct 7th 2023 at 2:55:35 PM

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That is actually my biggest issue with them too, I get the badniks are iconic enemies, but it'd be the perfect time to introduce new enemies that'd act as a Contrasting Sequel Antagonist to Robotnik.

Actually it'd be the perfect time to bring back some of the from scrapped enemy designs from Sonic 1!

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#75859: Oct 7th 2023 at 3:48:02 PM

I think the general issues are threefold

  • Sonic have Green Aesop vibes, and while they are more subtle than other works of that type, the enemy designs do a lot to sell the theme. Even Forces had a reference to desertification in its very first act.
  • general laziness and/or crunch. Sonic is now exactly known for an orderly production and as a result corners had to be cut somewhere.
  • a lack of antagonists other than eggman until recently. Prolly a cause and effect both, but most villains tend to be one off (Black Arms, Solaris and his aspects, Dark Gaia, Erazor Djinn, Merlina, Witchcart, Infinite, THE END), or is sequestrated to media that isn't explicitly canon to the games (Ixis Nageus, the Iron Queen, Mammoth Mogul, Scourge, The Metarex, Lyric, Starline, Surge). Some of which have too much a tie to the eggman to be considered independent (Dark Gaia being one of Eggman's plans, Infintie being his creation in a sense, Starline was his apprentice and Surge and Kit were in turn Starline's analog to Infinite)

all of this means that Mecha-Mooks are the default for most Sonic games regardless of if Eggman is supposed the Big Bad or not.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Oct 7th 2023 at 3:49:07 AM

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#75860: Oct 7th 2023 at 3:48:59 PM

Sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to share this cute comic of Sage and Bowser Jr. being best buddies.

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#75861: Oct 7th 2023 at 4:04:48 PM

If both villains use Badniks then the villain that isn't Robotnik should use his own designs of Badniks rather than just using Robotnik's own designs.

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#75862: Oct 7th 2023 at 4:59:19 PM

I wonder if it had anything to do with grandfather clause? Eggman,Doctor Wily,Bowser,Ganon,etc. were from a different time where they were pretty much the only villains of their respective games. It isn't as though that Sonic has a rogue's gallery where some villains can take over as the Big Bad of a different game.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
#75863: Oct 7th 2023 at 5:31:57 PM

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I think the Sonic games could use more antagonists, which is why I wonder why the fandom wants characters like Infinite and the Deadly Six gone entirely.

I like the Nature vs Technology theme, but there can be a few Sonic games that diverge from it a bit.

Also another controversial opinion, but Scourge is not a character I like. He just doesn't work as an Evil Counterpart of Sonic, his freudianExcuse is pathetic and isn't even consistent with the rules of his Mirror Universe, IMO.

On a unrelated subject, the Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM), calls the character of Antoine, a coyote, many times.

Looking it up, Antoine's species was never revealed in the show, even in the bible and other All There in the Manual. The only thing we have is the french dub naming Antoine, a Fox. The early Archie issues also called Antoine, a fox.

What do you I think should switch the mentions of coyote for on the Sat AM pages for?

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#75864: Oct 7th 2023 at 5:31:58 PM

If IDW falls, well, some very annoying people will be happy. And then they will chance their Misery to another thing to whine about, because people in their thirties and forties do that.

Whatever happens, happen.

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#75865: Oct 7th 2023 at 5:48:12 PM

Yeah, I've seen some Sonic fans complain so much about the IDW series, even though I personally don't think it's a bad series. Actually, I really enjoyed the stories in that series so far. I bet that if IDW does go downhill, but either SEGA decides to go to another comic book publisher to continue the series or just not publish anymore Sonic comics, then I bet there will be some Sonic fans complaining about how there's no comic book series to read or that the IDW series was good all along, just like what happened with Archie.

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#75866: Oct 7th 2023 at 9:58:04 PM

this is how Sonic Superstars will end

I ship it

Edited by taotruths on Oct 7th 2023 at 9:59:18 AM

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#75867: Oct 7th 2023 at 11:25:10 PM

My coworker keeps complaining about the dlc and how it's too hard(mind you he's playing easy), he got to the coco master trial and threw in the towel. Said he'll just watch the ending on youtube.

This is a feast only for the most hardcore sonic fans I guess?

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#75868: Oct 7th 2023 at 11:35:25 PM

Easy isn't really going to fix the actual difficult parts of this update...

So that just makes sense.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75869: Oct 8th 2023 at 12:55:35 AM

That Sonic 1 concept art always reminded me of Naugus the sorcerer from SatAM/Archie.

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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#75870: Oct 8th 2023 at 6:55:51 AM

[up][up][up]Definitely just for the most hardcore Sonic fans. And as we know, hardcore fans tend to be the most vocal, so that's probably why we're hearing so many people saying they love the extreme challenge. I doubt they're the majority, but they're very big on getting their opinion out.

I'd want a challenge like this to be optional as a difficulty level rather than required. That way everyone can get what they want.

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#75872: Oct 8th 2023 at 9:25:32 AM

Ack, Bounding into Comics. I first discovered them many years ago, and they didn't seem so right wing back then. Or maybe I just saw so little of the site (only a few articles) that I didn't notice their political slant.

They are very much a Get Woke, Go Broke kinda site. Complaining about diversity in media, and even throwing themselves into real world politics like randomly complaining about pro-abortion rights people, which has... nothing to do with comics.

Negaman Since: Aug, 2017
#75873: Oct 8th 2023 at 9:32:40 AM

MorningStar1337: The IDW comics are canon. Both Ian Flynn and the Sonic Official streams have confirmed that. Not to mention that Tangle was mentioned in Frontiers.

Edited by Negaman on Oct 8th 2023 at 9:33:06 AM

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#75874: Oct 8th 2023 at 9:59:36 AM

[up] noted. but it would halp if the cast from IDW actually appears in the games to cement it as not everyone listen to writer interviews and the Tangle cameo was in one line that I question is even present in the JP dub (And to be clear I am aware that the JP script is derived from the EN one as opposed to the usual reverse)

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#75875: Oct 8th 2023 at 10:03:36 AM

Come to think of it, both the Deadly Six and the Black Arms have one thing in common: Both groups are heavily contrasting extremes in terms of visual design that push the envelope of what a Sonic villain can look like.

The Deadly Six seem overly cartoony and look more visually in line with either the Classic Sonic games or the NiGHTS series. In stark contrast, the Black Arms are overly gritty and wouldn't be out of place in a M-rated first person shooter or a dark and edgy post apocalyptic story.

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