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ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#75651: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:34:35 PM

There's a boss rush. Just tbe first three, but No extra rings, parry for that fight only works with perfect timing.

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#75652: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:41:57 PM

That opinion kinda reeks of Accentuating the Negative tho.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#75653: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:43:49 PM

[up]Well, if most people will only get to play as the other characters for a few minutes before getting stuck after the game switches back to Sonic, that's what people will remember.

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#75654: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:44:31 PM

Still, it's more preferable to get them back as playable, difficulty be damned.

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
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#75655: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:54:04 PM

I'm just confused. How is the Big the Cat in the Starfall Islands an illusion created by Sonic memories? Why would Sonic think of Big?

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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#75656: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:54:43 PM

D Oes it really matter?

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#75657: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:57:10 PM

so for the new cyber space levels, what songs were remixed. I can make out Arrow of Time, Ephemeral, Genshi, Wishes in the Wind, and Dropaholic.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Sep 29th 2023 at 2:57:24 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75658: Sep 29th 2023 at 3:56:33 PM

Reminder that Knuckles has never been supposed to feel free when playing. Glides were supposed to be cumbersome and make you commit to a direction, and the lower jump height and speed are supposed to force you to think how you'd move.

In 3D? Not at all.

This is Knuckles only 3D appearance where his glide isn't an aerial repositioning tool.

Heck, it's his only appearance period where it's an airdash.

Plus, iirc in the 2D games Knuckles could climb any verticle surface, which compensates for his jump limitations. You were supposed to use his other tools to allow for the same sort of exploration and platforming ability as the others. Here that's not really a thing because he can only climb specific surfaces.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 29th 2023 at 4:01:03 AM

ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#75659: Sep 29th 2023 at 4:55:44 PM

Yeah, I think Wyvern might be just short of impossible when parries only work if they're nearly frame perfect.

Edit: Turns out lowering the difficulty loosens the timing on perfect parry. Glad they took that into account!

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Sep 29th 2023 at 8:19:03 AM

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MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
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#75660: Sep 29th 2023 at 5:21:39 PM

Wow, after all these years they finally did it. Super Sonic 2

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75661: Sep 29th 2023 at 5:58:34 PM

These towers are a freaking travesty.

After managing through the first one, I discover that the second is basically designed to be completed on Easy and becomes almost impossible on Normal - especially if you fail it once, because completing it involves destroying the objects you need to use to complete it (as resources, or alternatives to them, respawn on Easy, but don't on Normal).

Which, well, screw it. I'm just doing all of them on Easy going forward if that's how it's going to be.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 29th 2023 at 5:59:12 AM

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#75662: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:12:17 PM

Does someone know if there's legal issues SEGA has with "His World?" It seems like anytime the song makes an appearance, its the instrumental version only. Tried Googling for it, but the only music legal troubles anyone seems to ever mention is the Sonic 3 ones.

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#75663: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:14:43 PM

I'm not sure if His World has any legal issues like the Sonic 3 soundtrack does. I think the reason why the Sonic 3 soundtrack has lots of legal issues is because the songs sounded too similar to some of Michael Jackson's songs. Whereas "His World" is an original song for the franchise.

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#75664: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:31:35 PM

MJ's musician did provide some music for S3, including some old work he had of Hard Times which became Ice Cap.

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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#75665: Sep 29th 2023 at 7:41:15 PM

Oh! I didn't know that MJ's musician was involved in Sonic 3.

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Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#75666: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:04:05 PM

The reason for the trouble for His World might be an age rating. One of the lines early in the song is "kicking ass fast", which would cause trouble if the game doesn't have a warning like "mild langauge" on the case from the ESRB. Sonic Frontiers only has the warning for fantasy violence, so that might be way His World wasn't used in the game. Long story short, the use of "ass" in the song might cause a ratings issue for a game, and might raise the game's rating to be an equivalent of the T rating from the ESRB. The rating might not what Sega wants, so the song isn't used in games lately.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#75667: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:08:45 PM

the actual issue might be...an avoidance of reusing theme songs. Generations (which pulled from older games by design anyway) aside, Fist Bumpnote , Reach for the Stars, Endless Possibilities, Live and Learn and It Doesn't Matter also weren't used beyond their original games.

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#75668: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:09:01 PM

If that's the case, then "His World" probably won't be used in any future Sonic game, unless they were able to take out "ass" in the lyrics or make a future Sonic game that's rated T (which I don't know if SEGA wants to go through that, after what happened with Shadow the Hedgehog.

Edited by Rabbitearsblog on Sep 29th 2023 at 8:09:44 AM

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erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#75669: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:12:17 PM

So, for people who haven't finished the original campaign, is Final Horizon tacked on after the old stuff or is it a wholesale replacement?

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#75670: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:36:23 PM

"Mild Lyrics" is an actual content descriptor on Sonic Adventure 2. An E rated game. Granted, that has been bumped up to E10 now that the rating exists, but Sonic games use E10 ratings no problem. Sonic Frontiers has that rating.

I find that line of reasoning pretty flimsy, at best.

Edited by diddyknux on Sep 29th 2023 at 10:37:16 AM

Negaman Since: Aug, 2017
#75671: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:36:26 PM

[up][up] Once you get to Ouranos you can go right for it by simply turning around to look behind you and interacting with the ring portal.

Seems like they're going for a "both are canon" situation. In the sense that both are equally valid possibilities and neither are "non-canon" with what they bring to the table.

So, contrary to what lalalei2021 said, The End's character profile doesn't need to be changed. Since the information is still accurate.

Edited by Negaman on Sep 29th 2023 at 8:36:58 AM

Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#75672: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:47:38 PM

[up][up] https://www.esrb.org/ratings/38707/sonic-frontiers/

According to the ESRB website, Sonic Frontiers is rated E10+ for fantasy violence. There is no mild lyrics warning, so that reason would apply to this game.

About not using previous theme songs, the jukebox mode added in the dlc has most of the original theme songs foe Sonic from previous games. So, that line of thinking doesn't apply to the His World problem.

diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#75673: Sep 29th 2023 at 9:06:18 PM

My point was using Sonic Adventure 2 as a point of comparison with its "Mild Lyrics" label for why I thought the "kicking ass fast" line being a factor of SEGA favoring the instrumental version of His World was silly. I mentioned Frontiers' rating only to emphasize that if it HAD been in the game and a "Mild Lyrics" label needed to be added, it probably wouldn't change anything.

Edited by diddyknux on Sep 29th 2023 at 11:06:57 AM

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