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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
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#75626: Sep 28th 2023 at 11:40:50 PM

Ugh, that Dragon Trial made me hate the shield enemies even more than I already did. Doesn't help that they're even faster than the ones in the main game.

Edited by mstorzil on Sep 29th 2023 at 12:15:37 PM

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#75627: Sep 28th 2023 at 11:41:28 PM

So, how's the update looking?

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
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#75628: Sep 29th 2023 at 12:08:08 AM

Amy is fun as heck, Tails obliterates all challenge in platforming once you get the Tornado, and Knuckles... Yeah, no. As for the challenges, some of them are pretty obnoxious, whether it's because of the stuff they require you to do or because the solution is extremely vague. Then there's the towers and trials with Sonic (I'm at the 2nd trial). The towers are obnoxious because if you make even 1 single slip up you have to climb all of it again since unlike Rhea Island there's no checkpoints and the trials are some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. All of your stats are reset, you're facing stronger versions of the enemies that are lightning fast, and they have conditions. The 2nd one makes it so that your only skill, besides parry, is the Cyloop. At least, those are just my thoughts. Ugh, the revamped Supreme and The End better be HD Unleashed Dark Gaia levels of awesome. ... No, wait, that's too much of a high bar. Alright, they better be Knight level at least then. Well, for the people who felt the main game was too easy, I guess they got their wish.

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#75629: Sep 29th 2023 at 12:40:42 AM

I'm still in Amy's section, after shaking off some rust and trying to prioritize the map challenges, but it seems like some of them aren't meant for her to be able to do (go to three completely different points on the island?!). From what it seems so far, it may be enough content to equal Ouranos and Rhea combined, so basically 25% more game per game?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#75630: Sep 29th 2023 at 1:53:14 AM

So...it seems the better facial expressions didn't only apply to Sonic and Amy.

Eggman's become more expressive too.

Which is great, as his face was already the most expressive of the modern games.

But I notice the opening cutscene has his mouth making more unique shapes, when it was just his eyebrows before.

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#75631: Sep 29th 2023 at 3:16:10 AM

Tails obliterates all challenge in platforming once you get the Cyclone

Fixed that for you.

I saw it in Sam Procrastinates' livestream as well, but for the record:

The thing Tails can summon in Sonic Frontiers is the Cyclone, his mech from Sonic Adventure 2. It's not the Tornado. I guess it can be considered the Tornado III because that's what it says on the side, but it's still called the Cyclone.

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#75632: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:23:11 AM

What ever happened to the Tornado II?

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#75633: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:26:28 AM

Big the Cat crashed it and then Chaos further destroyed the wreckage when stealing its Chaos Emerald.

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#75634: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:29:31 AM

I remember that but I didn't know if anything else had happened with it after. So it is still where Big and Froggy left it after all these years.

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
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#75635: Sep 29th 2023 at 6:29:37 AM

Yeah, to hell with that snake trial. Really surprised how easy the one after was, though considering the hell I went through in the snake and dragon one, I'm not complaining.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#75636: Sep 29th 2023 at 7:05:52 AM

Reminder that Knuckles has never been supposed to feel free when playing. Glides were supposed to be cumbersome and make you commit to a direction, and the lower jump height and speed are supposed to force you to think how you'd move.

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#75637: Sep 29th 2023 at 7:19:07 AM

Okay so it wasn't just me that thought the game's difficulty spiked a bit with this update.

I spent an hour trying to climb just the first tower, good lord.

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#75638: Sep 29th 2023 at 7:21:57 AM

You know, the least they could have done is make objects you’re required to homing attack to proceed respawn automatically after a bit rather than requiring a death.

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
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#75639: Sep 29th 2023 at 7:52:18 AM

I know I'm the type of person to play through a game the way it wants me to without exploiting glitches, but you know what? Knuckles' glide is so atrocious I'm just going to infinitely jump over everything. I don't care if it's more time consuming, anything is better than that glide.

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#75640: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:17:28 AM

Oh right Knuckles does have that. Sonic Boom is so back guys

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75641: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:24:16 AM

So how's the new story?

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mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#75642: Sep 29th 2023 at 8:51:13 AM

[up][up]

Except rather than pausing instead you do his 3 hit combo then mash jump (you don't have to mash, but if you want to press it just once the timing needs to be just right) until he enters his gliding windup stance then use his 3 hit combo again.

Edited by mstorzil on Sep 29th 2023 at 8:52:20 AM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75643: Sep 29th 2023 at 9:27:01 AM

Time to update THE END'S character sheet since going by the trope page for the Final Horizon it's now outright confirmed to be destroyed.

Sonic and friends are just awesome like that.

EDIT: AWWWWW at the new credits theme <3

Edited by lalalei2001 on Sep 29th 2023 at 12:42:11 PM

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#75644: Sep 29th 2023 at 10:01:52 AM

IIRC Tails recovered the Tornado III after Adventure 1 and remodeled it into the Cyclone convertible just in time to jailbreak Sonic.

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#75645: Sep 29th 2023 at 10:39:02 AM

So a stor about the Ancients, with our main cast of four characters, Eggman, a new enemy from the past involving the ancients, and an AI, and Knuckles's infinite jump.

The only thing missing is Shadow and a robot sidekick and this would be a remake of Rise of Lyric.

By the way fellas, I noticed a Shout-Out Visual Pun to Greek Mythology in the final battle. Supreme looks in pain with the End on his back, and his multiple arms looks like he was carrying it. He is doing a homage to Atlas, the titan who carried the heavens (commonly seen in art as the planet) on his back. And with what we know of the Supreme's pilot (a Mirror Character to Sonic in this story), it is very fitting.

Edited by Tomodachi on Sep 29th 2023 at 10:58:33 AM

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#75646: Sep 29th 2023 at 11:21:43 AM

New version of I'm Here for Update 3. Fucking sick, btw.

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#75647: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:19:25 PM

Now I'm sad that Amy, Knuckles, and Tail's first 3D main-series playable appearance in ages is forever gonna be associated with one of the worst approaches to difficulty in series history.

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#75648: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:27:13 PM

at least there's Superstars...

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75649: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:27:36 PM

[up][up] Oh no, what happened?

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#75650: Sep 29th 2023 at 2:28:59 PM

Final Horizon is brutally hard. Kishimoto took the advices he received too literally and made Final Horizon really difficult.

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