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Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#75526: Sep 20th 2023 at 8:06:02 AM

So crazy thought but what if this game or the other new classic sonic games are going to introduce the counter jewels to the Chaos emeralds. We already had the Phantom Ruby, what if this game introduces the Shadow Saphhire, or the Dream Pearl, or even something like the Diamonds of Order.

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#75527: Sep 20th 2023 at 10:16:49 AM

Since it worked "so well" last time Eggman got a hold of a "dark Chaos Emerald", I can only expect to be dissapointed.

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ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#75528: Sep 20th 2023 at 10:25:42 AM

Yeah, pretty obvious Trip will turn. Although, I also think she'll be the final boss a.k.a the dragon Eggman's trying to summon.

Or maybe she's the counter to that.

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#75529: Sep 20th 2023 at 10:52:18 AM

I'm leaning towards her being instrumental in the boss(es)' use. The figures in the mural had very similar helmets to hers.

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#75530: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:16:50 PM

Theory: the snake is the True Final Boss.

Also, Trip’s armor (resembles some form of plate mail) looks like it was designed for weaponizing her tail.

Makes it more likely that Trip is a reptile. Barring Tails, mammal tails are very poor weapons. Crocs, lizards, and dinosaurs have the capacity to use theirs in a a fight to some degree (purely defensive rather than offensive and nowhere near as effective as claw and fang).

Lizards can use theirs as a whip (most famously Iguanas) and belive me, it hurts like hell if they strike the wrong spot.

Edited by magnum12 on Sep 20th 2023 at 1:37:40 AM

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#75531: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:18:41 PM

It's already been confirmed that Trip is a sungazer lizard so that is pretty likely.

Maybe some Ouroboros looking kinda stuff if she ends up being the true final boss.

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#75532: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:20:27 PM

The red snake's face reminds of Lyric's face.

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magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#75533: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:27:14 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VG50KyMhSAc&pp=ygUQaWd1YW5hIHRhaWwgd2hpcA%3D%3D

On topic on the grounds of proving my point about lizard tail whips.

A smaller iguana species can inflict painful bruises with its tail. Imagine a damage a bigger lizard can do….especially with bladed edge armor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_girdled_lizard

Sun gazer lizard. Aka giant dragon lizard. Crikey, that tail looks like it can inflict some serious damage if provoked.

Edited by magnum12 on Sep 20th 2023 at 1:33:59 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75534: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:57:07 PM

Huh. When's the last time the Sonic franchise has had reptiles, not counting the comics since the comics since the comics are all about lots and lots of myriad character designs in backgrounds and such. Was is (ugh) Lyric, in a licensed non-canon spinoff?

Were there any prominent reptiles in the games before Lyric?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 20th 2023 at 1:57:33 AM

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#75535: Sep 20th 2023 at 2:00:20 PM

Espio is a chameleon (lizard stealth predator). Vector is a crocodile. The Black Arms are ambiguously reptilian.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#75536: Sep 21st 2023 at 7:01:40 AM

I'm more convinced than ever that they need to bite the bullet and start voicing the classic shorts, seeing the characters talk with no dialogue coming out is way weirder.

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#75539: Sep 21st 2023 at 11:15:59 AM

More Superstars tracks, this time for Speed Jungle! One of the acts is composed by Tee Lopes!

Edited by taotruths on Sep 21st 2023 at 11:20:04 AM

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#75540: Sep 21st 2023 at 11:18:09 AM

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Congrats to Kishimoto!

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#75541: Sep 21st 2023 at 11:43:39 AM

I'm proud for gramps. I'm sure the Sonic inside his head is too.

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ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#75542: Sep 21st 2023 at 7:42:24 PM

[up][up][up] I like all three of them, although the Act 2 mix doesn't sound anything like Act 1. Is it even a remix?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75543: Sep 21st 2023 at 7:52:23 PM

Another thought @ the Trio of Trouble clip.

Something I've been thinking is interesting recently about Eggman is how he's actually very brave, in a Villainous Valor sort of way. It'd be easy to characterize a villain like him - a tinkerer genius who fights by inventing machines to do most of the fighting for him - as a coward. That's what usually happens with Dr. Wily, for instance.

But in that regard Eggman's actually a bit more like - say - Bowser, in that he's often depicted as fearless. Sure, he fights in machines and knows when to fold 'em, but he has no issue with waltzing into a dangerous situation if he thinks it can benefit him, and if he show any cowardice it's usually only because he's up to something.

If anything a lot of problems have been caused by the fact that he's too fearless and overconfident in his abilities for his own good.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 21st 2023 at 7:53:10 AM

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#75544: Sep 21st 2023 at 9:51:59 PM

He's a Sonic clone.

Of course the Egg is fearless.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75545: Sep 22nd 2023 at 9:58:39 AM

A Bumblekast answered questions about the Ancients, Chaos, and the Chao:

Near the end of the game, you get the slow reveal of where the Chaos Emeralds came from, and this reveals ties into both the Master Emerald and Chaos, along with the Chao. Did you (Ian) come up with the origin story for the Chaos Emeralds, or were you just tasked with writing around the idea? I personally loved the fact that Chaos was one of the Ancients who had touched the Master Emerald after becoming a Chao, and I wanted to know where this reveal came from, and how long it was in development.

Ian: The idea that the Ancients brought the Chaos Emeralds from space was in the story that I was given. That was baked in. But I really wanted there to be a greater connection to the greater Sonic lore so we didn't have yet another random alien race from the distant past. So I pitched the idea that they looked like Chaos, and over countless tens of thousands of years they eventually became Chao—their genetic lineage led to the Chao in the same way that we are descendants from ancient apes; you know we are not chimps, the Ancients are not Chao, but we all share a common ancestor. And..I was not expecting them to all be exactly like Chaos, all watery and stuff, but...surprise! Chaos himself is a Chao. That hasn't changed. He is a mutant Chao but his mutation is that he looks more like their distant ancestors.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Sep 22nd 2023 at 12:58:56 PM

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#75546: Sep 22nd 2023 at 11:05:57 AM

He answered that question a while back. To think, we almost got another random set of aliens. I'm glad the Ancients became Chao and Chaos, which funny enough made him very similar to Knuckles.

However, the question I want to ask Flynn is if, when writing Sage, he knew what she would look like. Sage looks too much like Infinite that it puzzles me that mr continuity didn't pointed it out.

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#75547: Sep 22nd 2023 at 12:53:41 PM

I wonder if Ian has ever read Sonic the Comic since it has similar aliens. They brought the Chaos Emeralds to Sonic's world, they were related to Chaos, had advance technology, giant robots, left behind islands with the ruins of the aliens, they are connected with water, they can travel dimensions. Now am I talking about the Drakons or the Ancients?

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#75548: Sep 22nd 2023 at 1:16:04 PM

I can answer that, but I don't have the source at hand. He read it, but doesn't recall anything from it, since he read it a long time ago.

And the resemblance was accidental, since Sonic Team gave him the story concept to work with.

Edited by Tomodachi on Sep 22nd 2023 at 1:19:19 AM

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Negaman Since: Aug, 2017
#75549: Sep 23rd 2023 at 10:04:02 AM

"Also if they ever wanted to clear up the phantrom ruby and whether or not it was made by Eggman do you think they could say the one used by Infinite was a fake one made by Eggman."

Forces already clarified that Eggman experimented with the original that cane from Mania to create copies and gave the final version of those copies to Infinite.

Honestly, I would love to see a counter set of gems to the Chaos and Sol Emeralds. The latter two already act as natural counterparts to the other, being described as north and south poles on a magnet able to attract and repel the other and work together towards a common goal in the Rush Duology; complementary opposites. So a set made up of various unique gems as an explicit opposing force antithetical to them would be cool.

We have the Phantom Ruby (Illusions made from nothing able to warp Spacetime and Reality), Paradox Prism (able to splinter and shatter existence into various versions of itself doomed to fade to nothing), and Warp Topaz (able to open portals to any location, including other dimensions, and possibly warp things fiercely if overpowered) so it wouldn't be out of left field with the new more canon sensitive direction the series is going.

Edited by Negaman on Sep 23rd 2023 at 10:16:22 AM

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#75550: Sep 24th 2023 at 10:08:13 AM

So we know what Ian Flynn's been knowing smiling about - a Sonic Superstars prologue chapter that he wrote


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