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SonicMario Since: Jan, 2010
#75251: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:19:15 PM

I have a feeling Tails, Knuckles, and Amy may only be playable in the Cyberspace stages.

(Spoilered because part of the datamine from some time ago. Don't worry, no story spoilers)

There's a skill tree for Tails, Knuckles, and Amy. AKA what was mostly combat moves for Sonic. That should mean more likely they are actually playable in the open zone rather than just Cyberspace.

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#75252: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:22:59 PM

Just like the Super forms of Tails and Knuckles on Heroes were more elaborated than the ones in 3&K.
Oh god there really are people who think that the generic golden balls are better then giving Tails and Knuckles Super Forms.

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#75253: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:25:44 PM

Yeah, I was gonna say, you mean "less" elaborated, not more.

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#75254: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:26:24 PM

Did anyone notice Sage's now wearing shoes like in that one Sonic Channel pic now?

Are explosions science?
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#75255: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:35:50 PM

Super Knuckles in the classic games is just Knuckles with the Super Sonic flashing effect slapped on. The pink is an artifact of the flashing from red to white, the same way Super Sonic looks pale yellow at some points. And Super Tails originally got the flickies to work as its screen cleaner, but that was it.

Super Tails and Super Knuckles in Heroes had a recolor of the regular shield, and new movement animations.

Old School non-Sonic supers are a mere flashing effect applied on the regular palette of the character.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#75256: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:45:36 PM

The versions of them in Heroes aren't even officially considered to be Super Tails or Super Knuckles, it's just Super Sonic sharing his power with them.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#75257: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:48:09 PM

My favourite Super form in the Games is Super Mecha Sonic Mark 2.

I wonder if Superstars will have parts for the Robots from The Fleetway, Archie and Idw comics as well as the cartoons.

Edited by neoamon on Aug 22nd 2023 at 9:51:50 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#75258: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:49:21 PM

@Page topper: I'm skipping all spoilers.

Spoilers (especially datamine or leaks) are different from speculation. On that note, I can't help but notice the coop in Superstars goes to fifth place, not fourth.

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#75259: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:51:00 PM

[up][up]and I call bullshit. Why is Sonic sharing his energy with Knuckles and Tails different from when he shared it with Shadow and Silver?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#75260: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:54:55 PM

Filenames were st and sk, for the record.

And, again, they were more elaborate forms than the throwaways from 3&K, which were literally "Super Sonic extra effects on Knuckles". And Super Sonic at least had a different sprite sheet and palette.

Edited by Eriorguez on Aug 22nd 2023 at 10:56:26 AM

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#75262: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:01:02 PM

I can't wait for how you guys will react to the new characters in Frontiers.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#75263: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:01:16 PM

That took on a new meaning this year.

<sweats nervously>

Good or bad?

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75264: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:07:38 PM

[up][up] New characters as in brand-new, or new as in 'newly playable'?

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#75265: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:10:55 PM

and I call bullshit. Why is Sonic sharing his energy with Knuckles and Tails different from when he shared it with Shadow and Silver?
I don't know, but visually the way it happens in Heroes makes it looks like it's not equal. In SA2 Sonic and Shadow both have the Chaos Emerald surround them and turn Super at the same time. In Sonic 06, Sonic does turn Super first and then share energy with Shadow and Silver, but they then turn Super the same way Sonic did. In Heroes, the Chaos Emeralds surround all three of them, but then only Sonic transforms while Tails and Knuckles flinch and stumble back from the blast, at which point it shows the energy Sonic emitted surrounding them to form the gold orbs around them.

Combined with how they're not officially called Super Tails or Super Knuckles anywhere, and how they look different from previously established Super forms including their own in other games, it comes off to me like they're more like "quasi-Super" forms.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75266: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:25:55 PM

I just realized Superstars and the new Mario game are coming out around the same time.

It's the 90s all over again XD

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#75267: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:30:46 PM

I have always wondered why Super Sonic, Super Mecha Sonic Mark 2, Super Shadow and Super Silver are a yellow/gold colour while other characters are different colours.

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#75268: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:33:28 PM

Hedgehog. That's also why I think Super Amy should be yellow.

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#75269: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:34:19 PM

@Handsome Rob: I think that was supposed to be a reference to The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#75270: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:34:24 PM

[up][up]I was expecting Amy to be a shade of yellow too.

Edited by neoamon on Aug 22nd 2023 at 10:34:39 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#75271: Aug 22nd 2023 at 2:54:35 PM

Actually curated Super forms, rather than effects thrown on the usual sprite.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#75272: Aug 22nd 2023 at 3:36:10 PM

[up][up][up]That is indeed what I was referring to.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Aug 22nd 2023 at 5:36:21 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75273: Aug 22nd 2023 at 3:42:42 PM

It's a shame Superstars only lets you customize in Battle mode. It would've been dope if you could go through the story mode while kitting out the characters with costumes referencing stuff all across the franchise history, like what Rayman Legends did with its plethora of alternate costumes and colors.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 22nd 2023 at 3:43:21 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#75274: Aug 22nd 2023 at 3:44:19 PM

RE: Superstars:

Hey look, we can finally make a Metal Tails! (IYKYK.) [lol] And a costume for Sonic to make him look like the bunny prototype? Talk about a deep cut. surprised

RE: Frontiers DLC 3:

Ohhhhhh man, I am so close to finishing watching a playthrough of Frontiers!

Must resist!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 22nd 2023 at 6:44:57 AM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#75275: Aug 22nd 2023 at 4:01:34 PM

so we got super sonic 2 after 30 years, how long till super sonic 3. where his spines are longer than he is tall


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