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LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
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#74976: Jul 16th 2023 at 1:31:34 AM

...That's Sonic X, right?

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#74977: Jul 16th 2023 at 2:27:53 AM

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#74978: Jul 16th 2023 at 6:40:18 AM

If we're imagining what a remake these days might look like, I'm still quite fond of the Adventure concepts from Ruby of Blue.

In particular, I think expanding on the English dub's script variations is an inspired idea.

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#74979: Jul 16th 2023 at 6:51:48 AM

What other Classic title could they remake or port that wouldn't be redundant at the moment? Origins Plus already covers most of them. The only things left are Knuckles' Chaotix, SegaSonic, 3D Blast, Sonic R, and Sonic the Fighters.

I mean, a Modern-Era sequel to Sonic the Fighters (with modern variants of Honey, Nack, Bean, and Bark, don't welch on us Sega) would be awesome AF.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 16th 2023 at 9:53:26 AM

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#74980: Jul 16th 2023 at 7:41:15 AM

In the case of an Adventure remake, do you think they will rewrite it?

Hmm, hard to say. I don't really care for the Sacred Cow nonsense, but I'm struggling to see what needs rewriting from those games. Maybe better voice or scene direction, but that's a separate thing.

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#74981: Jul 16th 2023 at 8:37:00 AM

Probably an improved translation, implementing what cut content there is, a better sense of linking the stories in some way...give Tikal a good reason for including Big in her flashback-athon.

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#74982: Jul 16th 2023 at 10:13:20 AM

I dread the thought because: who would do it?

Let's say Flynn does it. I enjoy the guy, but his quirks would annoy me in a hypothetical Adventure rewrite. What would he write? The English translation in the original game, or something more akin to the Japanese version?

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#74983: Jul 16th 2023 at 10:21:18 AM

If they were to go for a more drastic remake where a lot has changed, Flynn.

If it was just tightening up the translation or whatever, though, just give it to the Adventure super-fan in the office or scrape notes off the internet.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#74984: Jul 16th 2023 at 12:28:40 PM

I feel like they'd just redub the game with the modern voice cast and maybe change a few lines here or there.

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#74985: Jul 16th 2023 at 2:27:12 PM

Sonic Adventure 2's English script is mostly poorly translated from the Japanese script, so I could see that being revised.

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#74986: Jul 16th 2023 at 2:59:04 PM

One line I remember that stands for that is when Biolizard teleports, in English Shadow says "Is that what Chaos Control is?" which obviously doesn't make much sense as he's quite aware of what Chaos Control is. In Japanese he just says "Chaos Control ka!", the ka at the end indicates confusion or that it's a question. So presumably the translator wanted to extend the sentence out in English so Shadow isn't just saying "Chaos Control!?" but lacked context as where it was being said. In context Shadow really means more like "Whoa, did it just use Chaos Control?"

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#74988: Jul 16th 2023 at 4:31:31 PM

Honestly a generally overall of the story content with both Adventure games wouldn't be the worst idea. While getting as many of the original voice actors would probably be out of the question, a combination of better sound mixing, sensible animation/blocking in the cutscenes, an improved translation, and just better vocal direction of the performers would do a world of good.

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#74989: Jul 16th 2023 at 4:32:57 PM

One line I remember that stands for that is when Biolizard teleports, in English Shadow says "Is that what Chaos Control is?" which obviously doesn't make much sense as he's quite aware of what Chaos Control is. In Japanese he just says "Chaos Control ka!", the ka at the end indicates confusion or that it's a question. So presumably the translator wanted to extend the sentence out in English so Shadow isn't just saying "Chaos Control!?" but lacked context as where it was being said. In context Shadow really means more like "Whoa, did it just use Chaos Control?"

I think lipflaps were the problem...but at the same time they couldn't just write "Was that...Chaos Control just now?!" Which would be an improvement.

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#74990: Jul 16th 2023 at 4:45:55 PM

So I was doing a bit of simple math regarding main game "missions", not including bosses and modes not accessible from the main "map":

  • Sonic Adventure 2: 30 action stages, 5 mission each + 1 Last Story 5 part stage, 5 missions each = Either 31 or 155 main game "Acts" of platforming stages
  • Sonic Rush Adventure: 7 islands, 2 acts each + 16 hidden island = 30 main game "Acts" of platforming stages
  • Sonic Colors (console): 7 planetoids, 6 acts each + 21 Simulator levels = 63 main game "Acts" of platforming stages
  • Sonic Generations (console): 9 zones, 2 acts and 10 bonus challenges each = 108 main game "Acts" of platforming stages
  • Sonic Frontiers:
    • 30 Cyberspace stages + 6 Rhea Towers + 32 New Koco = 68 main game "Acts" of platforming stages not including the Open Zone
    • ## Action Chain Challenges
    • ## Overworld Memory Tokens

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jul 16th 2023 at 10:32:42 AM

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#74991: Jul 16th 2023 at 7:23:48 PM

So, in this weird community that we are part of, there is a strong devotion to writer Shiro Maekawa because he was involved in 6 Sonic games, 3 that are beloved by the fanbase (Adventure 2, the storybook titles)

Does he count as My Real Daddy? Because I've been thinking about this, and maybe he does for the rodent. A lot of the content that got out of the hedgehog follow his ideas or the way he potray it. Flynn got a lot of inspiration from his work (even if you will notice he didn't fully capture it), and even the Sonic movie 2 uses one of his sentences (a line from 06, funny enough).

I don't know if this is appropiate, as Maekawa wasn't fond of the Genesis games, which were the ground of the creator of Sonic, Naoto Ohshima. There has been a resurgance on the Classic era content due to translations of the manuals, but I don't think it represents the content we see of the characters.

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#74992: Jul 16th 2023 at 8:30:24 PM

I wouldn't say so. The storybook reception is mixed at best. Also, I don't really like how the fandom has to divide everything into what "counts" and what doesn't.

Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#74993: Jul 16th 2023 at 8:31:35 PM

[up] the gameplay could be better but the writing was surprisingly good, the black night has some of the best sonic moments ever.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74994: Jul 16th 2023 at 8:32:58 PM

Edited by kkhohoho on Jul 16th 2023 at 10:33:07 AM

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#74995: Jul 16th 2023 at 8:46:08 PM

Huh. I didn't notice until episode 5, but Dr. Babble's lines occasionally have actual translations in the subtitles. In the line I noticed, he suggested burning Mister Doctor's district of New Yolk to ash.

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#74996: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:24:14 PM

The joke is that Babbles is the most bloodthirsty and dangerous of the five.

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#74997: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:25:38 PM
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#74998: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:28:11 PM

Babies do lack empathy from birth, so Babbles being so murderous does make sense actually.

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SoaringStarman Since: Jul, 2023
#74999: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:30:20 PM

What was the first Sonic game to have a female composer? Knuckles' Chaotix?

Edited by SoaringStarman on Jul 16th 2023 at 12:33:32 PM

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#75000: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:37:07 PM

Speaking of being nasty, there was a Cracked article stating that one of the worst things babies do is killing their twin in the womb.

Thats your fun fact for you.

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