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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#74901: Jul 12th 2023 at 7:55:36 PM

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Does he though?

Sure, the manual said it, but the manual said a lot of things. If it wasn't mentioned in the games themselves, how can we be sure it's true?

That's why I jokingly said it's a question earlier, cause it's never been brought up in any game or official text since. But I don't see any reason to doubt the Japanese Chaotix as far as being what the developers of it intended at the time. Old Japanese manuals usually had accurate story and character info, sometimes written by the developers themselves, unlike old American manuals which tended to just make shit up (Konami was especially bad about this to point where some of their games would have plot descriptions in their manuals or boxes that had almost nothing to do with what was in the game).

Edited by KuroBaraHime on Jul 12th 2023 at 10:56:15 AM

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#74902: Jul 13th 2023 at 2:17:59 AM

Maybe Vector's headphones are actually constantly blaring out Christian rock.

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#74903: Jul 13th 2023 at 6:08:49 AM

To be honest, you know you'd love to hear Vector sermon bible verses to you using his 4Kids dub voice, IE, his Shadow the Hedgehog voice as well:

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#74904: Jul 13th 2023 at 6:51:12 AM

Hey just a heads up, the next batch of Sonic Prime episodes are out.

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#74905: Jul 13th 2023 at 6:52:32 AM

I can't believe Metal Sonic and Rusty Rose is a ship now.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jul 13th 2023 at 9:52:40 PM

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#74906: Jul 13th 2023 at 7:03:35 AM

[up] I know you're joking, but I'm certain that at least some folks have been genuinely shipping the two of them ever since Rusty Rose was revealed.

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#74907: Jul 13th 2023 at 7:53:03 AM

The name's Chaos Sonic, so anybody angry of their favorite bot was "ruined", take a chill.

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#74908: Jul 13th 2023 at 7:54:56 AM

Are you guys sharing spoilers on the new season that just came out today?

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#74909: Jul 13th 2023 at 7:55:38 AM

Chill they’re talking about a thing that popped up in the trailer.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#74910: Jul 13th 2023 at 8:23:13 AM

Well the name is certainly a spoiler.

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#74911: Jul 13th 2023 at 9:07:45 AM

That sounds like the form Archie Knuckles achieved called Chaos Knuckles.

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#74912: Jul 13th 2023 at 9:35:10 AM

[up][up][up]I for one haven't seen that particular trailer.

SoaringStarman Since: Jul, 2023
#74913: Jul 13th 2023 at 12:21:40 PM

Interesting description of Silver from the Sonic '06 character profiles. Never thought about him that way before I saw this.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/unknown_508.jpeg

Edited by SoaringStarman on Jul 13th 2023 at 3:24:31 PM

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#74914: Jul 13th 2023 at 12:57:13 PM

Sorry to say, but you might've just been out of the loop. That's like the most known thing about him.

SoaringStarman Since: Jul, 2023
#74915: Jul 13th 2023 at 1:03:46 PM

[up]That the Sonic series is more like Dragon Ball?

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#74916: Jul 13th 2023 at 1:13:27 PM

Yes...

Silver's nowhere near as cool as Trunks in his original portrayal though.

He's got similar mannerisms, but he's pretty boring and ineffective.

Edited by randomness4 on Jul 13th 2023 at 4:15:08 AM

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SoaringStarman Since: Jul, 2023
#74917: Jul 13th 2023 at 2:05:49 PM

The spreadsheet also mentions:

"Having lived his whole life in solitude on Angel Island, Knuckles' existence is spent guarding the Master Emerald, never having the freedom to do anything else. If Sonic's life is like the wind, then Knuckles can be said to be the mountain, ever fixed in place. He's a wild, tough, and all-around stubborn kind of guy. In some senses, he is a rival to Sonic, perhaps due to Knuckles' longing to have a life of freedom like the hedgehog's. Also, he has renown as a treasure hunter and is skilled in the ways of martial arts. His destiny as a member of the Echidna tribe is to keep constant watch over the Master Emerald.

His shortsightedness has led to his being duped and manipulated by Eggman.He is currently the only person with the ability to control the Master Emerald."

I always forget that Knuckles was always meant to guard the Master Emerald, so I guess the fact that he appears so often with Sonic in recent games really just downplays or even moves on from what his original purpose was, even if he's shown guarding it in later games. I guess that's what popularity can do to a character.

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#74918: Jul 13th 2023 at 9:35:54 PM

[up][up][up]Well, the Sonic series does take significant influences from Dragon Ball (as do lots of things), but I was specifically talking about the Silver/Trunks thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Silver had a Burning Attack reference I forgot.

Hmm... Maybe Lonely's Archives and Jehtt will collaborate and we'll get a "Future-Future Silver" video.

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#74919: Jul 13th 2023 at 10:20:51 PM

They already had a Goku and Vegeta, only made sense to add a Trunks to the mix.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#74920: Jul 14th 2023 at 5:17:08 AM

The Silver = Trunks angle could've worked if the story was a bit less half-baked.

Although, in absolute fairness, the story of 06 was the closest thing that game had to a 'good' part.

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#74921: Jul 14th 2023 at 6:51:21 AM

[up]It also had good music.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#74922: Jul 14th 2023 at 7:51:44 AM

I love it. Even the official character profile was a like: "look, he's just Trunks okay?"

Silver is basically "what if Trunks, but also a moron" and I love him for it.

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#74923: Jul 14th 2023 at 7:54:34 AM

Shame he never quite reached the heights of popularity that Sonic & Shadow receive. He was created to round them out into a trio and that has not been the case for a long time.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#74924: Jul 14th 2023 at 8:00:37 AM

I think I kinda get it, though.

Even outside of his big inaugural game being the Hindenberg, he does admittedly have an even worse problem as Knuckles in how his backstory makes him hard to fit into stories permanently. They might not have wanted to get into time travel every time, and you can handwave that easier if he's just a minor character in the background.

Though of course, they could fix that by establishing that Silver just more or less lives in the present now. I'd be down for something like that. I know some people didn't like it, but his whole "Leeroy Jenkins Destructive Savior" personality was fun imo, and he had interesting gameplay ideas even if they weren't always executed well.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 14th 2023 at 8:02:14 AM

ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#74925: Jul 14th 2023 at 11:35:51 AM

It's extra weird because he's somehow tied to Blaze, who is not the Blaze from his future, but from a different dimension, and they're both enemies of Nega who is somehow both from the future and Blaze's dimension, and they can both only interact when the plot finds an excuse to have them visit Sonic's timeline/dimension at the same time...


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