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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74751: Jul 7th 2023 at 11:59:21 AM

Remember when Rotor and that old Echidna dude were supposed to be gay?

EDIT: Holy pagetopper Batman!

Edited by kkhohoho on Jul 7th 2023 at 2:00:03 PM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#74752: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:02:57 PM

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We need more queer representation in media, but people need to stop being violently defensive about their queer headcanons, and asses need to really stop being homophobic wastes of time.

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
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#74753: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:03:52 PM

[up]x6

Nope, just a gradient background in the color palette of said flag. It's pretty much the best they can do.

Edited by Tony-Sharx on Jul 7th 2023 at 12:04:32 PM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#74754: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:05:30 PM

Amazing how thus came after he did a whole episode on a potential relationship between Sonic/Shadow.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#74755: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:23:05 PM

A common theory is that Amy and Tekno from Sonic the Comic both bi and are in a relationship. In the 'Exit Sonic' story in Sonic The Comic Online that was written by one of the writers of the original comic they are raising a kid together.

Mighty's father Blockhead Bill from Sonic The Comic is hinted to be in a relationship with his Business partner Society Max. The comic writer Nigel Kitching did think that were in a homosexual relationship.

Edited by neoamon on Jul 7th 2023 at 8:24:23 PM

"May your heart be your guiding key"
Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#74756: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:26:30 PM

To be frank, straight or not, almost every pairing imaginable could narratively work for the Sonic cast. It's probably way too late for Sega to commit to a ship because then it opens the floodgates to... God knows what.

Well, that or they'd have to reconcile with Sally Acorn being Sonic's ideal better half and their headquarters facing the same fate as the Kyoto Animation studio.

No, I'm not exaggerating.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74757: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:44:00 PM

[up]Want to explain that one, chief?

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#74758: Jul 7th 2023 at 12:50:36 PM

I see Sonic characters like I see TMNT characters. Their personalities are broad enough where different interpretations are inevitable and should be encouraged.

Every writer has their own ideas on how these characters should behave based on the broad traits they have.

Some fans (and I'm specifically gonna call Pariah out on this) see Sonic like series like One Piece, and think it's an ongoing story with an expanding narrative and I'm like "naw".

I 100% agree with this take. Mario is in the same boat, there's no hard continuity from game to game, they're all mostly standalone stories.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 7th 2023 at 12:51:17 PM

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#74759: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:14:44 PM

Short answer: Thinking as a writer, I look at Romance as just another tool to use that helps create more dramatic and story driven scenarios that also gives characters more depth. Depth that I think the Sonic cast could use without sacrificing the nature of Sonic stories themselves.

But because the fan base is the way it is, I legitimately believe Sega has a genuine fear of the shipping community thanks to Sat AM/Archie publicizing the Son Ally pairing. If diehard anime fans are willing to burn down entire studios, harass creators and voice actors over the most contrived reasoning, I wouldn't put it past certain Sonic fans taking similar routes.

They're already challenging Ian Flynn, issuing death threats at him and each other. And with a lot of them already anime diehards to begin with, Sega ignoring romance outright is probably their safest bet.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#74761: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:24:12 PM

I'm pretty sure it caught on fire.

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#74762: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:27:02 PM

Someone set the place on fire under the delusion that they plagiarized him.

A lot of people didn't make it out due to lax building codes.

Even bringing the tragedy up here seems very extreme.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#74763: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:29:03 PM

I wonder if Sonic the Hedgehog Bible and Stay Sonic has Sonic and Sally in a relationship. Since it is the first appearance of some characters in Sonic Media the characters are named Sally Acorn, Johnny Lightfoot, Chirps, Tux, Joe Sushi, Porker Lewis and Flicky the Bluebird.

Edited by neoamon on Jul 7th 2023 at 9:33:26 AM

"May your heart be your guiding key"
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74764: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:36:33 PM

It's amazing everyone remembers Sally years after she was locked in the vault.

It doesn't sound that long, but six years is how long it took for Archie to become a meme.

With every day that passes, everyone remembers it less for what it brought to the table and more as some weird relic.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jul 7th 2023 at 3:38:11 AM

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
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#74765: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:41:55 PM

I think I recall the Sat AM Freedom Fighters being written into the Bible in one of it's revisions. Like for one example Sir Antoine was meant to be an Englishman with a French last name.

That or I'm confusing it with a script. Sonic Retro has a batch of scans for it on their site and forum space.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#74766: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:47:48 PM

Joe Sushi the Walrus is probably the inspiration for Rotor the Walrus.

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Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#74767: Jul 7th 2023 at 1:54:41 PM

Judging from the first known promo, Sat AM appeared to be conceptualized with St C characters and designs. Would've been real interesting to see how that turned out.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#74768: Jul 7th 2023 at 2:11:50 PM

Is this the promo we're talking about? It shows off some early concept art for what eventually became the SATAM Sonic, and it looked quite different.

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
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#74769: Jul 7th 2023 at 2:30:39 PM

Yep, that's the one. Lord knows how this would've looked. I can see it doing much more slapstick but since Adventures was a thing the show runners probably wanted something tonally opposite.

If I were forced to choose between Adventures and the Sat AM we got, I'd probably run with this early concept to capitalize on the funny and the serious.

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#74770: Jul 7th 2023 at 2:48:56 PM

I'm surprised that they made two separate Sonic shows at the same time, with one being more humorous and the other one being more serious in tone.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#74772: Jul 7th 2023 at 7:10:45 PM

[up] That's not a video.

I don't think we're ever going to get an Official Couple in the current Sonicverse, unless it's like, the train conductor and his wife in Murder. The most we'll get is heavy hinting. Tangle/Whisper might as well be canon but we're as likely to get a confirmation on that as Sonic/Amy or Knuckles/Rouge or any other popular ship.

Edited by ElementX on Jul 7th 2023 at 10:10:56 AM

Tony-Sharx Megalodons are the best kind of furry. from ACME Nation Since: Mar, 2020
Megalodons are the best kind of furry.
#74773: Jul 7th 2023 at 8:57:20 PM

[up][up] The same guys just added a video for the Underground series. While most of the info told here isn't anything I've already read about, the one thing that stood out to me the most was the promo ad they showed in the middle of the episode.

I don't have fond memories of watching this, because it was always so frustrating trying to catch it on broadcast in the morning and I never figured out why. Turns out, they were broadcasting this show at friggin' six in the morning. On weekdays. Who in their right minds thought that was a good idea? Literally no kid was up that early on a school day just for Sonic the Hedgehog.

It was only later after actually watching the series in college did I learn that it was pretty bottom tier as a Sonic toon, which made it all the more frustrating after finally getting a hold on it after all these elusive years.

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#74774: Jul 8th 2023 at 10:19:26 AM

Sonic Boom suffered the same fate. And the Metarex arc was showing at 2am in my region.

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ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#74775: Jul 8th 2023 at 10:42:30 AM

Fun ranking of all classic 2D Sonic stages. Really surprised to see Carnival Night and Launch Base rank so highly. Also I'm glad I'm not the only one confused about he said about Quartz Quadrant. That stage definitely does not feel like filler in the slightest to me.


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