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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#74626: Jul 3rd 2023 at 7:04:45 AM

Silver and Blaze is such a funny pairing because its only basis is from a game almost two decades old.

So if you came into the fandom afterwards, you'd have no context as to why older fans are so obsessed with them.

"Almost two decades old"

...oh christ, I'm old. surprised

But seriously, as for the "no context" bit, I guess Sonic Team (maybe Japan in general?) figured that even without the context, the whole "adventurous/naïve guy and frosty but still kinda sweet girl" relationship archetype is enough of a draw that they can just leave it alone. (Really, doesn't Japan sort of eat ships like Silvaze like it's candy?)

I’ve basically come to the conclusion that Blaze is from a different dimension and Sliver is from the future, but Eggman Nega is Ivo Robotnik’s descendant who some how travel from Silver’s future to Blaze’s present by accident. That would at lest give a reason for why Blaze spends time in Silver’s future.

Sounds a bit convoluted at first, but unless TailsTube whips up a different story, I'll take this one.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 3rd 2023 at 10:06:19 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#74627: Jul 3rd 2023 at 7:10:09 AM

I already have no "context" for why people care about those 2 being together.

But if I can hazard a guess...it's because of...a game.

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#74628: Jul 3rd 2023 at 7:13:31 AM

People self insert their fantasies into them

Thats the basis of obsessed shippers

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#74629: Jul 3rd 2023 at 7:38:28 AM

[up][up][up] I am genuinely excited for Tails Tube series 2. I can't explain my fondness of those videos, but they are fun and do a lot to make the setting make a little more sense.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#74630: Jul 3rd 2023 at 8:35:08 AM

Does anyone else imagine Nack/Fang speaking like a Brooklyn gangster? IIRC Sonic the Comic had him as Australian but I always imagine him with a Brooklyn accent.

Put me as another thinking of him has a cowboy, mostly owing to his Spaghetti Western inspired theme in his original game.

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#74631: Jul 3rd 2023 at 8:40:10 AM

An infamously bad game that can't even bother to mention Blaze's origin (and we know it wasn't an attempted retcon because the promotional material surrounding the game repeatedly mentions Blaze's origin story), and which there isn't even a romantic hint between the two.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#74632: Jul 3rd 2023 at 8:53:31 AM

They're like sisters.

A real mentor student bond.

Sibling dynamic.

That's why Blaze kind of dies at the end.

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#74633: Jul 3rd 2023 at 8:59:30 AM

I personally buy the theory that Blaze is originally from Silver's future, but when she attemtped to seal Iblis away in another dimension and the ending of 06 reworte reality so that it's plot never happened she was basically permanently made part of that universe, thus Princess Blaze.

This also plays into how a lot of Sega's official art involving Silver and Blaze has Star-Crossed Lovers undertones.

They were supposed to be close, but now they are separated by both time and space.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#74634: Jul 3rd 2023 at 9:12:04 AM

Fang has a cowboy hat an a revolver, even if it only shoots corks. Usually. So I totally get the cowboy thing. As a kid, I somehow got the impression that he also used razor sharp plying card which he threw at people. May have been something I thought up on my own, I can't recall.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#74635: Jul 3rd 2023 at 10:06:56 AM

[up][up] Would that mean Rush takes place after 06?

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MrSeyker Since: Apr, 2011
#74637: Jul 3rd 2023 at 10:51:28 AM

[up][up] Under the logic of that theory, yes.

ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#74638: Jul 3rd 2023 at 10:51:59 AM

[up](x4) I wonder if he’s going to have a ray gun or if they’re doing away with that entirely.

I need more Omochao love but he has no chance against Silver.

I hope we get Cream as the primary in one of these polls since she got shafted twice. Preferably with Shadow as one of the options.

Edited by ElementX on Jul 3rd 2023 at 1:52:47 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#74640: Jul 3rd 2023 at 11:56:49 AM

[up] X 6 Nack in Sonic The Comic mostly used his shrinking and enlarging capsules that he keeps on his hat that he invented. Along with an emp gun that Knuckles used to shut down an army of Metal Sonics that Nack had brought as insurance incase they betrayed him.

It just realised that Sonic The Comic Nack is basically an evil version of Ant man or Atom.

Edited by neoamon on Jul 3rd 2023 at 7:57:39 PM

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#74641: Jul 4th 2023 at 4:43:04 AM

[up] 8: the theory doesn't work - not only is Blaze 14 (4 years older than the inciting Solaris incident and which Sonic and Elise went to to undo the game's story), but Blaze is also not some rando in the Sol universe but instead the empire's princess by birthright.

Not to mention that supplemental material surrounding 06 supported her origin story.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74642: Jul 4th 2023 at 6:24:59 AM

[up]It's not like age in Sonic matters. Amy is supposed to be 12, but if she is, she's way Younger than She Looks.

Likewise, I've always pegged Blaze about 16/17.

ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#74643: Jul 4th 2023 at 6:55:25 AM

[up] Yep, all the Sonic characters feel older than their canon ages nowadays, but Amy especially always has. I think they had her younger since she was supposed to be a little girl with an innocent crush in the classic titles but clearly reads as a teenager in Sonic's age range by the Adventure era.

This is why I think Sega dumped the official ages because they clearly don't apply anymore. Cream is the exception, which may be why they shelved her character for a bit. But that was strange to begin with, I think something else is going on there.

Edited by ElementX on Jul 4th 2023 at 10:11:55 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#74644: Jul 4th 2023 at 7:24:27 AM

She wasn't 12 before Sonic Adventure.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#74645: Jul 4th 2023 at 7:29:57 AM

[up][up][up] The point is that Blaze isn't like, 9 or something.

She's very obviously a teenager unlike Cream or Charmy or Tails. So she can't be 14 in her debut if the divergent event only happened 10 years ago at most.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#74646: Jul 4th 2023 at 7:36:57 AM

Yeah, it has the same issue that Elise holding a chaos emerald for an indeterminate amount of years has.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74647: Jul 4th 2023 at 7:52:31 AM

That wasn't gonna be an issue if they continued with the soft reboot trajectory.

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magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#74648: Jul 4th 2023 at 8:07:47 AM

Prime episode showed up early…

Shadow’s trust issues very much in line with the Adventure era.

@Black Yakuzu

Gonna have to disagree on the nowhere to to go thing.

Still plenty to work with.

Hero Antagonist route can go all sorts of places. Especially if Sonic and GUN are on the same side but have different approaches.

Conflict of idealism vs cynicism/pragmatism.

Simply enjoying their fights like a Blood Knight.

electricmastro Since: Apr, 2015
#74649: Jul 4th 2023 at 9:00:06 AM

What has been the most recent prominently major Sonic character to have been introduced?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#74650: Jul 4th 2023 at 9:01:36 AM

Sage.

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