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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#74076: Jun 9th 2023 at 3:24:37 PM

I have often viewed Metal Sonic to be more offense based and Mecha Sonic based more on taking hits so defense based. Metal Sonic being the sword to Mecha Sonic's shield.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#74077: Jun 9th 2023 at 3:31:31 PM

Internet: Oh, another 2D Sonic game? It's gonna have Green Hill and Chemical Plant and other places we been to a billion times? LAME.

Iizuka: HAHAHAHA, NO.

Yeah, no Green Hill, no Chemical Plant. These will be brand new places. You're welcome. cool

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 9th 2023 at 6:31:56 AM

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#74078: Jun 9th 2023 at 3:34:05 PM

Emerald Hill Zone will probably be only be in the trailer.

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Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#74079: Jun 9th 2023 at 4:30:04 PM

A solid ten minutes or so of the jungle zone, featuring Fang and Nameless the Klutz at the end.

Edited by Grounder on Jun 9th 2023 at 4:30:20 AM

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#74080: Jun 9th 2023 at 4:33:05 PM

Already revealed and not giving them a good time, eh?

I think they may genuinely surprise in some way, though.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#74081: Jun 9th 2023 at 4:38:09 PM

Curious if this is fully made in-house by Sonic Team. That would be notable if so since every 2D Sonic game for the last 25 years have been made by outside dev teams.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74082: Jun 9th 2023 at 4:39:10 PM

Besides the 2D stuff in major 3D games.

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Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#74083: Jun 9th 2023 at 4:41:10 PM

[up][up]Arzest is supposedly involved to some extent, as it's Ohshima's company.

Ideally only art, as their track record is pretty terrible.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#74084: Jun 9th 2023 at 5:18:32 PM

It does look rather similar to Balan.

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Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#74086: Jun 9th 2023 at 7:50:17 PM

Observations:

  • Boosters, grind rails, and tubes, oh my! It would be a lot easier to see momentum mechanics if there weren't so many things blasting Sonic all over the place.
  • The slower platforming portions seem alright; at the very least, they look more natural than they do in the modern games' 2D segments.
  • I saw several instances where Sonic ran along the grind rails like normal terrain when he wasn't moving fast enough. Bug or feature?
  • Yep, that's Fang all right. I have no strong feelings on him in particular. I'm not too fond of his helmeted (?) companion though. If this is their idea of a Bumbling Henchmen Duo, then I'm afraid Orbot and Cubot have them beat.
  • This is definitely just a me thing, but I don't like the idea of each individual Chaos Emerald having its own associated power. New Powers as the Plot Demands is nothing new to Sonic, but it seems particularly clumsy here. Unless we're collecting a new set of Mineral MacGuffins, I don't see this as a "natural" extension of either Sonic's or the Emeralds' powers. I know Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog did it and I'm pretty certain Archie did it in days of yore, but this is the game 'verse.

All in all, Superstars looks fine, but it's not to my notoriously finicky taste.

MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Urara-lala~!
#74087: Jun 9th 2023 at 7:55:21 PM

i mean if you aknowledge that you have finnicky taste then we cant really fault you for that

im the opposite really, i see new weird spins on classic stuff and ill probably get it day one :p

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74088: Jun 9th 2023 at 7:56:19 PM

Sonic running at top speed puts him in the grinding animation on the rail...

The Chaos Emeralds are suppose to grant wishes...it took them 10 years to introduce one ability that they have.

Now it's taken 22 years for them to actually do the thing they're suppose to do besides Super Sonic. I won't fault you for thinking it's being poorly implemented, but this is the type of thing they should've been doing a while ago.

Edited by randomness4 on Jun 9th 2023 at 10:58:05 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#74089: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:45:42 PM

Looking at the footage right now, it looks better than Sonic 4, but not really on Mania's level. Which I guess is still an improvement for Sonic Team, so I can't be too upset to be honest.

They clearly have a different design ethos for Classic Sonic than Whitehead's team, so I'm not gonna fault them for that.

Twinkle Park riff being in the first zone song is pretty good.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#74090: Jun 9th 2023 at 9:05:53 PM

That's Sonic 4 music...

And it'd make less sense being here than the level that music is from.

Edited by randomness4 on Jun 9th 2023 at 12:06:33 PM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#74091: Jun 9th 2023 at 9:30:41 PM

Yeah, it's ported over music directly from Sonic 4-2. It's White Park, Act 2.

People are generally assuming it's placeholder music, since the game is early in development.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#74092: Jun 9th 2023 at 10:12:37 PM

Isn't the game coming out in Fall 2023? (Or was it 2024? XD)

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#74093: Jun 10th 2023 at 4:59:57 AM

It definitely looks like Sonic and co control really well. I like what I've seen about boss design for sure.

I guess my one wish at this point is for good level design and environmental story telling.

If the chaos emerald powers are too gimmicky I can just not use them so that's not even a concern for me.

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#74094: Jun 10th 2023 at 5:26:55 AM

Superstars looks great, but all my hype for playable Amy in it and Origins Plus is kinda petered out. She's pretty much just 'Sonic but with lightning shield'. Comparing it to all her unique gameplay styles in previous games, it just seems pretty damn dull.

Edited by Psi001 on Jun 10th 2023 at 1:30:45 PM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#74095: Jun 10th 2023 at 6:18:50 AM

People complain about characters playing not like Sonic, people complain about characters playing like Sonic...

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#74096: Jun 10th 2023 at 6:30:19 AM

I liked Amy's Advance gameplay really.

I get that would be complex to add here, but surely they could have done better than a double jump, the most overused and generic ability you can give a platformer character. Knuckles plays like Sonic but has really distinctive abilities (flying/gliding) and a shrewdly effective weakness (bad jumping).

Like even giving her the bubble shield bounce instead would have been more engaging and felt more in tone with her slam attack from the Advance games, then give her the peel out instead of the spin dash as both an Advance 2 and CD nod and to incentivise using the hammer more. Still simple but at least more inspired than just Sonic's Blast gameplay.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#74097: Jun 10th 2023 at 6:42:56 AM

Advance 2 Amy was a Sonic reskin tho.

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#74098: Jun 10th 2023 at 6:56:24 AM

Advance 1 Amy was great though. Also since Advance 2 Sonic also had the downward slam for some reason, Amy kept it in that game. Didn't she also have a peel out instead of a spin dash?

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#74099: Jun 10th 2023 at 7:07:23 AM

To be honest, I've always hated how similar the characters in the Classic games are. 1 playthrough feels almost no different from the others, so I keep questioning why I even bother playing all of them when I could just play as Sonic and stop afterwards, especially since he is the only one that gets access to the Super Sonic boss excluding Mania's stage select cheat. Then again, only 2 classic games even have a Super Sonic fight and one of them still gives me one of the most miserable experiences I've ever had in my life.

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Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
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#74100: Jun 10th 2023 at 7:09:31 AM

[up]The simple solution is to treat Tails as easy mode, and level select to any unique Knuckles levels.


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