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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73876: May 31st 2023 at 4:22:14 PM

[up][up]That's specifically why I think Frontiers would've been the point where they actually became close friends.

Had this series actually had any sense of long form storytelling or at least any consistent path for its character arcs...Frontiers was honestly was the perfect point for that development.

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Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#73878: May 31st 2023 at 5:00:12 PM

Knuckles had no reason to hate Sonic after it was revealed he was deceived by Eggman. Knuckles is gullible but not a petty jerk. I don't feel him becoming friends was all that jarring or anything.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73879: May 31st 2023 at 5:16:06 PM

Knuckles becoming more of a friend kinda happened over the Adventure games tho.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73880: May 31st 2023 at 5:26:07 PM

They both hate Eggman...it just makes sense doesn't it?

[up]...no. There's not enough interaction in either game for that.

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Movie and TV Goddess
#73881: May 31st 2023 at 6:07:25 PM

There's a thread for Game Apologist by the way.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73882: Jun 1st 2023 at 1:29:57 AM

When I first encountered Knuckles he seemed like a smug guy with the smarts to have traps ready to stop Sonic.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#73883: Jun 1st 2023 at 4:03:28 AM

I think knuckles is smart, he's just not people savvy.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73884: Jun 1st 2023 at 4:20:24 AM

Outside of the fact that he's lived on the island his whole life, a lot of those traps are more mechanically involved than simple ingenuity.

Eggman obviously helped him...because they don't make sense being on the island naturally or they only work in the zones he uses them.

One of those traps is literally just turning off the lights.

—-

Being reminded of this so much honestly makes me realize how little Knuckles shows up to deter Sonic.

And that only 2 of his traps are actually effective, destroying the bridge and pushing a giant boulder.

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Soft Boi
#73885: Jun 1st 2023 at 6:41:14 AM

The smarts that I envision Knuckles having are combat smarts (he is a trained martial artist, after all) and being a history buff (ancient ruins and civilizations).

We all have to answer to the call of fate when it beckons us, even if it is not at a moment of our choosing.
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Live Jet Reaction
#73886: Jun 1st 2023 at 7:42:31 AM

[up][up] "What's your plan to eliminate Sonic, Knuckles?"

"I'll throw a rock at him!"

"That all?"

"It's a big rock."

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#73887: Jun 1st 2023 at 8:24:22 AM

Eggman, later: "I'm sorry I ever doubted ya, that rock was a real good plan."

Knuckles: "You're literally stealing from me >:("

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#73888: Jun 1st 2023 at 9:37:28 AM

About those traps on Angel Island: Knuckles' job is to protect the Master Emerald, and he can get pretty obsessive about it, and he has a lot of time on his hands, so having a bunch of booby traps all over the place fits in pretty well.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73889: Jun 1st 2023 at 9:56:57 AM

...

I didn't say him having traps didn't make sense, I said that most of the traps only exist because they only relate to whatever Eggman's built in the level.

Like, turning out the lights in Carnival Night or activating one of those fans...that doesn't naturally exist on the Island. A lever that activates a huge gust of wind in Mushroom Hill to perfectly correlate with Eggman's weather machine. And Knuckles using 2 separate switches to destroy bridges that seem like pre-existing parts of the island.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73890: Jun 1st 2023 at 10:09:25 AM

I never actually considered that Eggman built those traps for Knuckles to use.

Not that I think he's (much of) an idiot, but using traps and indirect methods never struck me as fitting for Knuckles, even back in the Classic era.

His entire design screams "bruiser", so why isn't he scrappin... granted, when it comes time for the boss fight, he's a pushover so maybe that's why :P

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73891: Jun 1st 2023 at 12:39:30 PM

Knuckles struck me as some who would work smarter not harder.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73892: Jun 1st 2023 at 12:46:15 PM

...

Of all the characters in this series, that saying would apply to Knuckles the least.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#73893: Jun 1st 2023 at 12:54:02 PM

A Sonic Origins Plus bingo card was released. Amy is apparently a speedrunners' character.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73894: Jun 1st 2023 at 1:13:08 PM

[up][up][up] That's literally the exact opposite of Knuckles lmao.

Do you understand how many problems would have been avoided if he just used his head for two seconds?

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jun 1st 2023 at 4:13:50 AM

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#73895: Jun 1st 2023 at 1:15:22 PM

Knuckles would work harder because it's the principle of the thing.

Shadow would also work harder. Out of spite. Because screw you. You're not the boss of him.

Which is why neither of them are the hero. Sonic is. And Sonic! ...Would work harder just to see if he could.

Tails over here facepalming at all three of them.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 1st 2023 at 1:15:45 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73896: Jun 1st 2023 at 1:45:17 PM

Knuckles would try and fail a lot, but would be trying out of dogged determination.

Sonic would keep going because he just finds the whole thing fun and entertaining.

Shadow would blow it up and call it a day because he doesn't have time for BS.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jun 1st 2023 at 4:48:43 AM

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73897: Jun 1st 2023 at 2:05:34 PM

It might be that Sonic The Comic's Knuckles influencing my view of game Knuckles.

Since he defeated the Stone Guardian guarding the Pyramid by luring it in to quicksand where as Sonic just attacked it. Knuckles was tricked by Robotnik into letting him get to the Chaos Emeralds, however he did have an insurance policy incase Robotnik betrayed him. Using the Grey Emerald that Knuckles had said was lost to remove the Chaos Emeralds power from Robotnik.

Edited by neoamon on Jun 1st 2023 at 10:14:43 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73898: Jun 1st 2023 at 2:20:27 PM

So basically back when comic authors had way more leeway with the series when things weren't as firmly established yet.

Needless to say, critical thinking and foresight aren't really skills Knuckles has in his modern interpretations.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jun 1st 2023 at 5:21:42 AM

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73899: Jun 1st 2023 at 2:35:43 PM

It would also explain why Amy would use her crossbow and bow because her hammer hadn't been established.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73900: Jun 1st 2023 at 5:15:57 PM

I generally see Knuckles as the kind of guy who would be calmly involved in a planning process, listens to the plan, helps the other with plans, maybe even offers the occasional insight...

And then the moment he sees something else he wants to do he completely forgoes the plan and barrels straight into it, no matter whether or not it's a good idea, generally leading to disaster.

That's the gag of his I remember most from Adventure 2.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 1st 2023 at 5:17:03 AM


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