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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73701: May 14th 2023 at 4:51:28 PM

[up][up]Bare in what way? That there's not a lot going on? As you get further in you find that the island(s) has a lot of different biomes and points of interest. But if you mean in terms of active life, unfortunately there's not really a lot of life on the islands. Just the Koco, gulls, and enemies.

erazor0707 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#73702: May 14th 2023 at 6:18:26 PM

It could be I'm not quite far in, but let's compare.

Kronos Island: mists, cliffs, gorges, rivers, and such.

Ares Island: sheer size with ancient tech despite a lot of sand (and an oasis or two)

Chaos Island, I so far just see rock, grey ground, and more a lava stream or two.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#73703: May 14th 2023 at 7:32:39 PM

there's also a pinball machine tongue

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73704: May 14th 2023 at 7:38:34 PM

Oh, well it is mostly grey rock just like Ares Island is mostly yellow rock, but there's also A large geothermal spring, the inactive lava area inside the misty crater, the active lava area by the cannon, the floating platforming areas (that are admittedly less impressive than the ones on Ares Island, but also are less optional), the ice capped mountain, the island with the weird magnetic rock pillars, the much more extensive underground area, and the outlying islands that have a bit more plant life to them. I can see why it seems to be a lot of people's least favorite island, but I can also see some of what they were going for. Also, on every island, when you're going around collecting the musical notes, the game places a few in the more varied areas.

Huh, while I was exploring the island to see if there was other stuff I didn't remember, I triggered another line of Sonic's monologue that I hadn't come across during gameplay. I like that some of these lines are optional, but it's kind of annoying that some are exceedingly rare.

Also, one thing the game doesn't tell you outright: the flying enemy "Eagle" can be freely controlled if you get on top of it, either by homing attacking it from above or by the regular way you defeat it. You can use that to get to some of the outlying islands that are otherwise only accessed by the grind rails from the Island Challenges. Since I didn't find out until afterwards, I didn't check if it can be used to fly to the plot relevant islands locked behind an Insurmountable Waist-High Fence (locked until proceeding through the story).

[up]That too. To be honest, it was around the time of playing that that I wished the "Hacking" minigame could just be accessed and replayed as its own standalone mode. I also wouldn't mind replaying pinball, if it had a more interesting board.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 14th 2023 at 9:44:57 AM

Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#73705: May 14th 2023 at 8:57:38 PM

I'm glad that they are planning on redoing the final level for the DLC. I think they could have added more to THE END'S character with the final level.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73706: May 17th 2023 at 9:20:57 AM

Sonic Prime comes back July 13!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#73707: May 17th 2023 at 11:18:16 AM

[up]

Damn. Happy Birthday to me.cool

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Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#73708: May 17th 2023 at 12:25:23 PM

Finally!

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73709: May 17th 2023 at 2:56:19 PM

[up][up]Indeed, happy birthday to you! Hopefully no one attempts to murder your love interest on your birthday.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#73710: May 17th 2023 at 5:24:30 PM

Jokes on them.

I have no love interest![lol]

......sad

To be clear, the second half of Sonic Prime comes out on my Birthday, so the 13th of July. It's not today.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73711: May 17th 2023 at 5:33:56 PM

A very merry unbirthday to you, then!

Wait... that's what the next Sonic visual novel needs to be! Sonic In Wonderland! Or maybe a full on Storybook title.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#73712: May 17th 2023 at 7:11:02 PM

I'm actually curious what they'll try and do with The End in a DLC redux; after all, it was kind of just a bit angry moon that was a bullet hell boss. I would suggest having it shapeshift into different things, with different phases where Sonic channels the previous three titans with help from Sage.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#73713: May 17th 2023 at 7:20:26 PM

I'd say have the Bullet Hell section be the first phase of a 4 phase boss fight, followed by three phases where they ape the fighting styles of the Titans (and set to an orchestral medley of their battle music) and Sonic has to defeat them with Sage's help. A Final-Exam Boss that tests the player's memroy and how much they and Sonic learned from their experiences on the starfall islands.

The KNIGHT one would be where the monolouge comes in.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73714: May 17th 2023 at 8:00:34 PM

[up][up][up][up]I knew what you meant. I was wishing those things prospectively.

[up]The island bosses are already final exam bosses. In Frontiers, the regular enemies are the equivalent of a normal game's mini-boss, the Guardians are the equivalent of a normal game's boss, and the Titans are the equivalent of a normal game's final boss. The actual final boss of Frontiers didn't really have anything to add beyond either more of the same as the regular bosses, the standard Sonic final boss formula of Chase Fight with light dodging elements, or what it actually did.

And now that we have the battle rush mode, I even more prefer that the final boss not be a rehash of something we've already beaten.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 17th 2023 at 10:01:34 AM

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#73715: May 17th 2023 at 9:27:36 PM

Given Sonic asks for the Ancients' help, coupled with the menu saying for him to team up with the titans, I'd prefer for the game's original vision to be fulfilled - have all four Titans show up to help Super Sonic in some fashion.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#73716: May 18th 2023 at 12:03:32 AM

Thats just begging for a Gurren Lagann/Getter Robo style mecha combination. I'm not sure people can handle that much anime.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#73717: May 18th 2023 at 5:23:24 AM

And Super Sonic forms the head. Somehow.

VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#73718: May 18th 2023 at 8:19:07 AM

Perhaps The END could have attacks referencing past Super Sonic final bosses? The fight itself already reminded me of Ultimate Gemerl considering that both fights take place in space, have a melancholy battle theme and have Super Sonic teaming up with an enemy in order to damage the enemy.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#73719: May 18th 2023 at 8:57:20 AM

I rather something closer to a Soul boss if we're going that route.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73720: May 18th 2023 at 9:12:16 AM

[up][up] Sounds dope.

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VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#73721: May 18th 2023 at 11:34:07 AM

[up][up] To be fair, THE END is very much a Kirby Soul boss in terms of design and also in role. It's very similar to Void specifically because they're both the True Final Boss of their respective games that are sphere shaped and use Bullet Hell attacks and are stated to have multiple incarnations.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#73722: May 18th 2023 at 11:44:48 AM

I could see them bringing back team blast as an attack on The End with Sonic and friends.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73723: May 18th 2023 at 1:15:21 PM

[up][up] The key trait of a Soul Boss is that they're a harder, more elaborate version of an existing boss - and the lore of them is they're literally the boss' vengeful, twisted soul coming back for one last shot at revenge - I dunno if The End really resembles either of those things.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#73724: May 18th 2023 at 1:20:09 PM

Design?

Even the simplest looking one has an actual design...it look like Kirby.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#73725: May 18th 2023 at 5:44:26 PM

I'd suggest maybe having control swap between Sage and Super Sonic during the fight, make it seem like it's more than just 'Sonic is along for the ride'


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