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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73651: May 11th 2023 at 11:12:10 AM

One issue with the Avatar is that they're mute...hard to characterize a protagonist who doesn't speak unless you're just really creative about it and even then.

Fire Emblem and Persona straight up had to give their Avatar characters names and personalities to make sense of them showing up in subsequent games.

"Gadget" works well enough as his design pretty much screams "everyman". Just give him a voice and you'll be fine.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#73652: May 11th 2023 at 12:02:18 PM

But is Infinite canonically gay, or because he is so nihilistic and strenght-driven, he sees everyone as having cuties?

Edited by Tomodachi on May 11th 2023 at 12:03:09 PM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#73653: May 11th 2023 at 2:18:49 PM

Secret Galaxy has put out a video talking about the history of the two Sonic cartoons that ran simultaneously in 1993.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73654: May 11th 2023 at 4:12:19 PM

And fully S-ranked Project-06. Damn this feels neat ngl.

Oh well, time to play Flame Core again, that stage within a properly working game is great.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73655: May 12th 2023 at 9:31:20 AM

I could see Infinite returning after getting a new power, such as abandoned G.U.N. tech, Blacks Arms technology or worse he could try to turn himself into an animal-Black Arms hybrid like Shadow.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
Dictionaryman616 Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#73656: May 12th 2023 at 10:38:06 AM

Infinite gaining some new undiscovered power would be amazing and could possibly make him a Knight of Cerebus.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73657: May 12th 2023 at 2:44:20 PM

Isn't that what he was supposed to be already though?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#73658: May 12th 2023 at 2:55:15 PM

Infinite being ultimately a jilted Super Loser who stumbled into a magic artifact is the best way to use the character if you ask me.

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73659: May 12th 2023 at 3:34:06 PM

My idea is for Infinite to using Black Arms tech is that it backfires on Infinite turning him into an abomination with the Black Arms hive mind in control.

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#73660: May 12th 2023 at 3:59:15 PM

If I'm allowed to offer my idea for a character that I loathe: I would suggest Infinite working on his own to regain Eggman's favor. The guy is a vile individual, but he truly worked under Eggman's wing, and is possibly the only likeable element of his character.

Like a fallen samurai trying to regain the blessing of his lord.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73661: May 12th 2023 at 4:52:39 PM

Kind of like Starline.

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VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#73662: May 12th 2023 at 5:23:16 PM

[up] When you stop to think about it, Infinite and Dr. Starline have quite a few similarities.

"Punishment is not the answer. Punishment is easy. It's lazy. Redemption is hard. Redemption makes you work."-Skulduggery Pleasant
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73663: May 12th 2023 at 5:24:02 PM

Yeah, they were both created by Eggman and humiliated by Shadow.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73664: May 12th 2023 at 5:38:46 PM

Starline only had like the one run in with Shadow that barely effected him and didn't do anything to his plans.

VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Herald of Lunar Tierce
#73665: May 12th 2023 at 5:47:14 PM

Dr. Starline and Infinite are secondary antagonists who both worked for Dr. Eggman, used a powered stone as part of their powerset, have associated with a group of villains (with Zavok a member in both cases), both of them betrayed Dr. Eggman which ended poorly and ended with them dead, both of them have black and white in their colour palettes and are based off obscure aspects of the series history (The Wechnia glitch/Fun Is Infinite).

"Punishment is not the answer. Punishment is easy. It's lazy. Redemption is hard. Redemption makes you work."-Skulduggery Pleasant
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73666: May 12th 2023 at 5:58:03 PM

Infinite didn't betray Eggman...?

The game didn't actually set that up...he just failed.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73667: May 12th 2023 at 6:34:50 PM

Pretty much every secondary antagonist has worked with Eggman and been part of some form of group, and gems are the series' macguffin of choice. Black is barely a part of Starline's color scheme, and black and white are a common color scheme anyway, see Shadow and Rouge.... who each are closer to Infinite and Starline's color schemes themselves.

Wtf is "fun is infinite"?

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 12th 2023 at 8:41:44 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73668: May 12th 2023 at 6:51:51 PM

Infinite being ultimately a jilted Super Loser who stumbled into a magic artifact is the best way to use the character if you ask me.

Yeah, I agree. I like Infinite as a dude desperately trying to prove to people who couldn't care less that he's better than them, fail ever time as a matter of course.

Ever since someone suggested a while back that Infinite should be a straight-up Chuunibyou in future appearances, I've loved the idea.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73669: May 12th 2023 at 7:50:30 PM

[up][up]It's an obscure image from Sonic CD's sound test and has nothing to do with Infinite the character.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#73670: May 12th 2023 at 8:02:47 PM

it cna be found on this Nightmare Fuel page

Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 12th 2023 at 8:03:31 AM

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#73671: May 12th 2023 at 8:03:47 PM

Infinite and Starline have some similarities, but they are quite shallow.

Starline was a fanboy who thought he understood everything about the setting, which let him on a path to conquer said setting (as he calls it, "The Sonic Cycle"). He is methodical and obsessed with plans, even if he is as short-sighted as Eggman despite his claims to the contrary.

Infinite was a warrior with a desire for wasteland where he was the top dog. He wanted power for the sake to be the ultimate warrior and gain a name to be feared. His worldview was shattered when Shadow defeated him, because it broke his ego, to the point he adopted a new identity. He is less of an idealist as Starline, as he isn't looking to create a new world, he just wants a playground where he can be the ultimate bully.

In order words, Starline is an Eggman wannabe; Infinite is unintentionally a Nega wannabe.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73672: May 13th 2023 at 2:12:32 PM

When I said that Starline is like Infinite I was talking about both needing approval.

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VapourSoulOS Herald of Lunar Tierce from You really expect me to know that? Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Herald of Lunar Tierce
#73673: May 13th 2023 at 2:55:49 PM

[up] That's true. Infinite wants everyone to see him as an all-powerful being with unparalleled strength and cannot stand it when his enemies attack this self image of himself. Dr Eggman is just a means for Infinite to tyrannize everyone to fulfil his own sadism.

Dr Starline on the other hand is obsessed with Dr Eggman to the point where he tells the man his abilities, deludes himself into thinking they're equals and even when he tries to strike out on his own, is so obsessed with his idol that his plans are built on stolen Eggman tech and repurposed versions of his idol's plans.

"Punishment is not the answer. Punishment is easy. It's lazy. Redemption is hard. Redemption makes you work."-Skulduggery Pleasant
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#73674: May 13th 2023 at 6:04:07 PM

It's always fun to see the differences in the characters. Despite similar archetypes, they couldn't be more different.

It's like when people were comparing Infinite with Mephiles. Sure, they resemble one another, but there are too many differences for that comparison to click.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#73675: May 14th 2023 at 4:26:01 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing Infinite come back as physically corrupted person; that his obsession to maintain his power and not be seen as weak is so all encompassing that he's accepted a quasi-deformity just to keep himself strong.


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