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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#73451: May 3rd 2023 at 4:38:53 PM

I'll do the opposite then.

Let's talk about the Nocturnus Clan. Why is the leader named "imperator"? Why do you think Ix and Nestor look alike? If you were to rewrite the story, which arc do you think would be appropiate to Shade?

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73452: May 3rd 2023 at 4:52:13 PM

NGL, I'm a bit soured on echidna magitek civilizations due to Penders being fixated on them, but, I really appreciated something being done with the Gizoids.

Edited by Eriorguez on May 3rd 2023 at 1:52:22 PM

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#73453: May 3rd 2023 at 5:18:05 PM

I would have the Gizords work for Knuckles at the end of the game. They would protect the Master Emerald and the Floating Island. I would have two scientists in the Nocturnus with the names Doctor Zachary and Doctor Finitevus as references to Sonic The Comic and Archie Sonic respectively.

Edited by neoamon on May 3rd 2023 at 1:18:20 PM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#73454: May 3rd 2023 at 5:21:40 PM

[up][up][up]Imperator is a Roman title roughly meaning Emperor. Most of the Nocturnus clan ranks are based on Roman titles.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73455: May 3rd 2023 at 5:28:05 PM

It makes people sound more intimidating and imperial, basically.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#73456: May 3rd 2023 at 5:33:18 PM

I kind of like that Rouge and Blaze just get along well. A stoic princess and a thief not having any problems just works. Granted it's to make the gags of Berry just not knowing what the fuck to do even funnier, but Blaze is just quietly having fun throughout the whole experience.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#73457: May 3rd 2023 at 5:35:29 PM

I'd go with something closer to a Blaze scenario with Shade and the Nocturnis. Have them be natives of a different dimension instead of prisoners there, and ditch the magitek angle and go for straight up magic for the abilities. Also would make Shade the only Echidna of the Nocturnis

Would at least make them distinct enough that Penders wouldn't go on a temper tantrum. Hell I might consider getting Archie in to vet out any other copyright-violating kinks in the story.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 3rd 2023 at 5:36:13 AM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#73458: May 3rd 2023 at 7:09:52 PM

Project 06's biggest issue, Pariah noted with some disappointment, was that fixing all of the characters felt kinda wasted when some of them will never get as much playtime as the Hedgehogs in the main story. Well this mod changes that to let you play ANY character in ANY level.

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#73459: May 3rd 2023 at 7:25:08 PM

100% Blaze run here I come.

It's funny how the Nocturnus Clan kind of was a thing before the larger population of Funny Animal people became more visible in the games themselves, so for a species that was supposedly almost entirely extinct there where more Echidnas than there where Hedgehogs, cats and Foxes put together.

I felt like the dialogue did carry Chronicles for a decent stretch but I did give the game up before I finished it.

SEGA tends to learn the wrong lessons from their failures though which is probably why we haven't seen another attempt at a Sonic RPG.

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#73460: May 3rd 2023 at 8:10:38 PM

They didn't learn anything because they didn't try. Sonic Team in the 2010's didn't have the budget, nor they were interested in an RPG.

What were they interested was the Boom franchise working. And it didn't. And I doubt they will ask a third party again to make a game for a loooooong while.

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#73461: May 3rd 2023 at 8:17:31 PM

I assume Project '06 would've re-implemented Team Attack Amigo or something similar in a future update. It's not like they're actually done yet.

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#73462: May 3rd 2023 at 9:36:57 PM

I'm surprised no one commented on my remark about what bats eat last page, or pointed out any exceptions to the trend.

I actually liked Chronicles well enough, except for the soundtrack and balance, obviously.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73463: May 4th 2023 at 3:02:32 AM

Bats are 1/3rd of all mammals and have plenty of dietary diversity.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#73464: May 4th 2023 at 3:10:00 AM

Robots. Its whats for breakfast.

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#73465: May 4th 2023 at 8:50:32 AM

I remembered an official social media post from last year where someone (they claimed it was Tails) was wondering if Omega had a small animal inside of him. I remembered it because I'd seen the special sixth episode of Mania Adventures, and got to wondering if Metal Sonic has an animal inside of him.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#73466: May 4th 2023 at 9:49:49 AM

He doesn't. He has a different mechanism that provides energy to him, according to the manual of CD.

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#73467: May 4th 2023 at 3:47:56 PM

DEEPEST LORE: The Death Egg II Saga

In which Sonic the Fighters was actually canon lol.

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#73468: May 5th 2023 at 8:37:07 AM

You know, I'm understanding of both sides...but my god, what a waste of an opportunity to have Hyper Sonic appear in Frontiers

Like, the story of the Ancients is that they brought the Chaos Emeralds to Earth following the signal of the Master Emerald. That alone, for me, is enough to tease that the Super Emeralds can destroy The End compare with the Chaos Emeralds that only managed to slow him down.

I understand Iizuka, they want to avoid power creepy, but Frontiers gave enough background for Hyper to appear.

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#73469: May 5th 2023 at 11:33:36 AM

Power creep how??? We've only seen maybe four different super forms throughout the 2nd generation of Sonic games between the entire cast. Sonic Team/Ian Flynn could've easily written a bullshit reason to bring Hyper Sonic into the games one last time if they were worried about the Super state being obsolete.

I genuinely don't understand this decision; it's fan service.

EDIT: And to be honest, I only understand power creep in the context of competitive games, not Sonic. I mean yeah, Dragonball had an issue, but if anything that should serve as example how not to handle power creep.

Edited by Tony-Sharx on May 5th 2023 at 11:37:34 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73470: May 5th 2023 at 11:40:52 AM

I always figured if it's specifically a super form that is triggered by specific circumstances vs an evolution of super forms, then that avoid power creep.

Like, this power up happens if you use the Chaos Emeralds and does X, this powerup happens if you use the Master Emerald and does Y, this power up happens because of genie storybook shenanigans and does Z, etc.

That makes the powerups situational, yes, but avoids the escalation problem they seem to have wanted to avoid in Frontiers.

That said, I always figured the reasons Hyper Sonic never showed up is that the strobe light thing would probably look really bad in 3D vs in sprites, so I'm just a bit surprised in general that there was a different reason entirely.

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#73471: May 5th 2023 at 11:45:54 AM

We don't need Hyper Sonic back. Also, wasn't it non-canon, anyway?

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#73472: May 5th 2023 at 11:49:24 AM

They probably wouldn't have to use the strobing effect(reason more to avoid triggering epilepsy). Sonic could've had rainbow reflections off a crystalized "skin", a few sparkles and still could've served as a decent reimplantation of Hyper Sonic into a modern game.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#73473: May 5th 2023 at 12:04:47 PM

Every other Super Form is just Super Sonic but looks different...

Hyper Sonic is just Super Sonic, but more.

There's no reason to bring this back.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#73474: May 5th 2023 at 12:17:33 PM

Hyper Sonic does have the thing of being unable to drown. (Can still get crushed to death, though.)

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#73475: May 5th 2023 at 1:14:26 PM

My answer would be to Hyper Sonic's fur white like a lot of art has him or green like the Master Emerald's colour

Edited by neoamon on May 5th 2023 at 9:16:37 AM

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