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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73426: May 3rd 2023 at 7:15:52 AM

To be honest, I prefer the music from Murder to the regular boss music. And seeing the family guy death pose on a 3D model is unreasonably hilarious.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#73427: May 3rd 2023 at 9:20:50 AM

Some of the investigation and action pieces in Murder are unreasonably good. Like, for a premise that's so silly, it's like nobody working on it got the memo that they didn't have to try so damn hard, but they did.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73429: May 3rd 2023 at 10:03:45 AM

There's so much good that can be said about the game, but weirdly one of my favorites is still that there's a Sonic game that can just be called "Murder."

Like you could ask someone what Sonic games they've played, and they could say "And Knuckles, R, Adventure 2 Battle, Battle, Rush Adventure, Forces, and    MURDER   ."

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#73430: May 3rd 2023 at 10:20:19 AM

It kills me that I can say, "Between letting Sonic grow up a bit in Frontiers and then immediately murdering him afterwards, I'm a big fan of the recent directions that the franchise has taken," and it is neither a joke nor a backhanded compliment.

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#73431: May 3rd 2023 at 10:42:31 AM

It can be both.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
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#73432: May 3rd 2023 at 10:54:18 AM

Thinking about Pariah's video, I actually chuckled about something. Pariah was annoyed that the plot threads of the characters don't go anywhere, in this case, he mentions the characters romantic feelings between Sonic and Amy, and Knuckles and Rouge.

That's what happened in Sonic X too. Oddly enough season 2 ended with both couples seemingly ending together. By the Metarex saga though, Rouge and Knuckles grew distant, and Sonic and Amy...had a vague relationship, but I assume they became an official couple.

So, yeah, my two cents. Knuckles and Rouge relationship seemingly vanished after 06 in the games, and IDW doesn't have them interact much (and when they do, it's hilarious) and Prime only have the Distopian world with them as partners of the resistance.

Edited by Tomodachi on May 3rd 2023 at 10:56:05 AM

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#73433: May 3rd 2023 at 10:54:38 AM

I for one hope Barry the Non-Binary Quokka shows up again on occasion to point out how utterly insane some of the adventures are. Doesn't have to be a regular thing, that's a gag that could run its course, but it was refreshing to have someone who actually second-guesses some of the stuff that comes out of the character's mouths.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73434: May 3rd 2023 at 11:52:51 AM

It's hilarious how much of an ass whooping Sonic takes (offscreen) in Murder. Like, dude gets poisoned by a dart, pummeled unconscious by metallic arms, dragged bodily through several hundred feet of tiny service vent, and dumped unceremoniously onto the ground where his friends let him stay there unconscious for what's apparently at least an hour or so.

It's like the worst beatdown he's gotten since Mephiles, and it's entirely played for laughs.

[up] I had an idea that if they keep doing the big open world hub/platform merge of Frontiers, and eventually need a travel system between maps like Mario Odyssey has, they could have the transit system be a train and Barry be the attendant, making comments about your progress if you talk to him like the various stuff on the airship in Odyssey.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 3rd 2023 at 11:55:07 AM

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#73435: May 3rd 2023 at 12:04:34 PM

[up]

Mephiles was (ironically enough) quite merciful.

It was one and done.

The only two hits were him hitting Sonic (with a laser blast) and Sonic hitting the ground.

Murder sounds like Rasputian levels of homicide.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73436: May 3rd 2023 at 12:24:15 PM

[up][up]The train in Murder was a special event train, but otherwise such an idea would be great to see Barry again!

After Mania, every Sonic game release can fall into one of several categories:

  • Racing, runner, or olympics
  • Updated Re-release
  • Cameo in another franchise (Smash, Roblox)
  • Sonic gets beat to (near) death.
    • Forces, Frontiers, and Murder isn't exactly a long list, but it is a trend.

Murder has "fallen" to the 64th highest rated game on Steam, right behind Undertale.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on May 3rd 2023 at 2:29:09 PM

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#73437: May 3rd 2023 at 1:47:59 PM

I think it's really funny to compare the two different versions of Lego Eggman:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/21331_alt8.jpg https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/76994_alt8.jpg

They REALLY listened to the criticism.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73438: May 3rd 2023 at 1:56:13 PM

Jesus, what even is that first one?

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#73439: May 3rd 2023 at 1:58:01 PM

I'm kind of glad Murder (...this is gonna take some getting used to...) showed that its some of the basic traits about these characters and just let them...interact.

It alleviates videos like Pariah's where everyone feels like that there needs to be constant change and growth for the characters.

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#73440: May 3rd 2023 at 1:58:21 PM

[up][up] An... Attempt.

[up] "Your favorites just hang out" is an underappreciated genre.

Edited by ShirowShirow on May 3rd 2023 at 8:58:53 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#73441: May 3rd 2023 at 2:19:04 PM

Development is good.

Not every character is made to go through an arc and the appeal has never been that they would.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73442: May 3rd 2023 at 2:20:25 PM

Around the time Tails and Shadow had that conversation about coffee, it hit me that the two of them never interact and it's sort of weird. It's not like Shadow isn't around, but he always just talks to Sonic and vice versa - like an imaginary friend or something.

It's like playing Fighter Z's story mode and realizing that Krillin and Vegeta barely interact despite both always being around Goku.

That, and I'm almost certain its the first time Rouge and Blaze have ever interacted in the games outside of party games and such (maybe they interacted in Rivals?), and you wouldn't think they would cross paths too often given how distant their parts of the universe are, but here we get a whole part of the story that's just the two of them and its great.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 3rd 2023 at 2:20:50 AM

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#73443: May 3rd 2023 at 2:21:10 PM

[up][up][up]&[up][up][up][up][up]I would have called it “unwillingness to commit to new molds for what at the time they might not have been confident would be more than a one-off”.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on May 3rd 2023 at 5:21:44 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#73444: May 3rd 2023 at 2:23:53 PM

[up][up]If it weren't for the comics...I'm fairly certain Rouge and Blaze's entire dynamic would only been based on their one victory animation in Mario & Sonic 2016.

Edited by randomness4 on May 3rd 2023 at 5:24:23 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#73445: May 3rd 2023 at 2:38:24 PM

"Your favorites just hang out" is an underappreciated genre.
That's why it's such a prolific genre of fan webcomics. I'd definitely love more visual novels of characters from words I enjoy. Take notes, Three Houses.

I just realized the comics have given us another example of a team that includes a member who is the natural predator of another. Foxes eat hedgehogs, chameleons eat insects, big cats eat rabbits, bats eat robots, weasels and hawks eat small birds like ducks and swallows, and wolves eat sheep.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#73446: May 3rd 2023 at 2:45:29 PM

It's not conducive for a game sadly

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#73447: May 3rd 2023 at 3:43:25 PM

An actual dialogue heavy Sonic RPG to really do justice to broader character interaction is long overdue.

Well, one not bogged down by lawsuits, bad music, and the developer being bought out by EA anyway.

Edited by BorneAgain on May 3rd 2023 at 6:44:02 AM

mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
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#73448: May 3rd 2023 at 4:28:21 PM

Can we just pretend that game never happened? I'd rather play the Classic games than ever think about that disaster again. I destroyed the cartridge and threw it away years ago, yet it still haunts me to this day.

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#73449: May 3rd 2023 at 4:30:32 PM

[up]You’re allowed to not like it, but you can’t force a topic of conversation to never come up.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73450: May 3rd 2023 at 4:32:23 PM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.

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