TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

General Sonic The Hedgehog thread

Go To

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#73301: Apr 27th 2023 at 8:31:15 AM

Thats odd, Iizuka wrote those.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#73303: Apr 27th 2023 at 9:11:49 AM

If Badnik is an English term, then is there a specific name they have in Japanese, or is it just something generic, like the Japanese word for robot?

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
☆♥☆
#73304: Apr 27th 2023 at 9:18:55 AM

They're just called robots.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#73305: Apr 27th 2023 at 9:19:25 AM

Literally just "Eggman's Robots".

There isn't a special term.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#73306: Apr 27th 2023 at 9:22:53 AM

"Look at all those Eggman's robots" was there for a reason after all.

And, nowadays, I'd take a platoon of Egg Pawns in different costumes that YET ANOTHER Motobug as in Green Hill.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#73307: Apr 27th 2023 at 10:33:42 AM

Now that's just boring. Hell, maybe even out-of-character. You mean to tell me a bombastic man with love for carnivals and trademarks just never thought of a bombastic name to refer to his army?

I know individual robots have names like Motobugs or Egg Pawns, but his pattented "Badniks" are out of line?

And let's not pretend is too on the nose, Eggman recognizes he is evil in Heroes ("I'll show you what true evil is!").

I'm half joking here.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#73308: Apr 27th 2023 at 10:54:23 AM

Hey now, that was Metal Sonic pretending to be Eggman. We don't know Eggman's opinions on the subject.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#73309: Apr 27th 2023 at 12:02:54 PM

Look, I wish Metal Sonic disguising himself as Eggman would let us see subtle hints of Metal's personality (like him telling Shadow to piss off as he has no memory), but turns out Metal was imitating Eggman to the letter.

Eggman could kill it in the movie industry by having Metal Sonic being an ac-tor.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73310: Apr 27th 2023 at 12:43:12 PM

Not a completely perfect act as Robotnik, as he didn't realise that the robot with Team Dark is Omega straight away.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#73311: Apr 27th 2023 at 2:52:56 PM

Robotnik wasn't even canon until SA 2.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73312: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:04:27 PM

The one thing I'm baffled about Heroes in retrospect is that they didn't invent two sidekicks for Metal.

Like, it's so weird. The whole game is built around the team-of-three mechanic. Every hero team is a trio. Stages are built around trio mechanics. There's multiple trio-vs-trio battles throughout the game. Everything is centered around it... except the big battle at the end? Just feels like a waste of idea.

Imo they should've had Neo Metal Sonic appears with - like - a Robot Tails and Knuckles as disposable minions/sidekicks. The final boss has two stages: a trio battle with Team Metal, but when you beat them Metal Sonic pulls a DBZ and absorbs the other two to become Metal Madness.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:05:12 AM

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#73313: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:06:06 PM

Pretty sure that the main antagonist in a game about teamwork being a lone wolf who even backstabbed the person he normally works with was the point.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73314: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:07:59 PM

I'm not sure about that (I find myself doubting the writing put that much effort into Metal's personality) but imo it's a worse idea than actually having the main gimmick of the game continue to be relevant to the whole experience.

Besides, the alternative idea I gave was an example of how to keep the gimmick going while still having Metal be a lone wolf who backstabs his allies.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:09:45 AM

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73315: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:41:30 PM

His allies were the Badniks. Or do you mean Silver Sonic and Mecha Sonic Mk 2.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
Dictionaryman616 Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#73316: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:59:06 PM

Really missed the opportunity for Team Hooligan in Sonic Heroes, that one decision could have likely stopped the division between Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic. The idea was scrapped by SEGA.

Edited by Dictionaryman616 on Apr 27th 2023 at 7:59:31 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#73317: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:02:48 PM

If the Chaotix are any indication, they would have retooled the characters entirely and ignored Fighters.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#73318: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:16:58 PM

Putting them in Heroes would've done nothing for the decision to split/divide that came a decade later.

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#73319: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:35:21 PM

You could argue it might have prevented the decision.

Like, depending on how much they did or didn't change Team Hooligan, they might have not seen a point in the separation when they were already using even more classic characters.

Btu the point that they could have been re-tooled still stands as well.

One Strip! One Strip!
Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#73320: Apr 28th 2023 at 12:29:55 AM

Oh I'm sure that Metal Overlord being a lone wolf in the game about teamwork is intentional, not only is this Shiro Maekawa (who in my opinion has the most impressive writing credits overall throughout all of the games), but also you got stuff like "the real superpower of teamwork!" tossed about.

And tbh, it's a lot better than having the main villain be someone who forms their own team of 3 because then you kinda lose the idea of "teamwork good yo" and it just becomes "good guys win because they're the good guys"

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73321: Apr 28th 2023 at 12:43:21 AM

It read that way to me, the way gatekeeping, spoonfeeding and the like were brought up. The question would have came across as more innocent if only the cartoons were mentioned, but, my bad, it is on me.

Hang on, you read "I'm trying to help him avoid gatekeeping and spoonfeeding" and got "I'm gatekeeping and spoonfeeding him just what I want"? That post was anti-gatekeeping and spoonfeeding.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#73322: Apr 28th 2023 at 10:20:57 AM

I would have liked a Neo Metal Sonic boss battle.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#73323: Apr 28th 2023 at 7:11:30 PM

Watched Sonic The Hedgehog 2 The Movie and I gotta say, as much as I complained about the human sidekicks as much as anyone (Ever since Sonic X even) the entire wedding sequence in that film is balls out hilarious start to finish.

You are not alone.
mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#73324: Apr 29th 2023 at 12:02:06 PM

Pariah goes over P-06. Also, I want to point he said out that with Silver out there's no reason to ever go back to the original. ... Uh, what? Even before Silver was released name 1 reason why you would still go back to the original. And all this is coming from a guy who doesn't even play mods, rom hacks, and whatnot.

No rain could douse the flames that burn within me!
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#73325: Apr 29th 2023 at 12:13:40 PM

For fun. Sonic 06, to me at least, is firmly in So Bad, It's Good territory. And I also have no interest in mods or fanhacks or things of the like. So... Its glitchy 06 weirdness for me.


Total posts: 84,033
Top