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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#73076: Apr 17th 2023 at 10:56:59 AM

Definitely.

I just wanted to talk about Fleetway Sonic lore for a bit.[lol]

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neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
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#73077: Apr 17th 2023 at 11:08:04 AM

Maybe Grimer's Dad name is Muk.

Grimer's creations the Metallixes nearly wiped all life in an alternate timeline they created by removing an egg from a fridge.

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#73078: Apr 17th 2023 at 11:14:04 AM

Grimer probably doesn't use that name since Muk spelt backwards is Kobra.

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#73079: Apr 17th 2023 at 11:17:31 AM

Kobra? As in the Crimson Cobra enemy of Chaotix who had his front company brought out by Charmy Bee.

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#73080: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:05:28 PM

Hey gang, we got some scoop.

Turns out, Charmy and Cream were planned for the Murder game, but Katie and the crew dropped them due to being too young.

“We decided they were both too young to dabble in the workings of murder,” Chrzanowski says. “I’m happy with the cast we ended up with, and it was just enough to give each their spotlight without overstaying their welcome or dragging the story on too long.”

I wouldn't mind if at least that was stated in-game, but whatev. Somehow I doubt either could have stayed in-character during the whole roleplay.

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#73081: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:07:00 PM

It seemed pretty obvious, to be honest.

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#73082: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:41:37 PM

Oh that's gonna piss someone off.

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#73083: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:42:04 PM

Knuckles training Wade? Yeah, that sounds right. I know everyone's disappointed but I'm honestly not surprised. The filmmakers have banked on the human cast to bring in audiences for two films now. Why would that change with Knux's spinoff?

Y'all didn't seriously think they were going to give us a whole-ass series as just, like, this deep-dive into echidna history without any of the humans wandering around in the middle of it, did you?

Paramount put the humans here for a reason. They have zero confidence in the Sonic cast's ability to drive a film by themselves, and that has not changed. It sucks, but it's what it is. That is how the people who make these movies view the material they're working with.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 17th 2023 at 12:43:46 PM

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#73084: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:45:40 PM

It's most likely a budget thing, so best not to throw an "I was right" parade in here. And don't even think of saying that this is an indication that Sonic 3 will be more focused on humans too when there's Shadow.

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#73085: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:46:14 PM

Honestly, I'm more disappointed they're not using Maddie given her admitted fondness for Knuckles.

Could have been a nice contrast to Sonic and Tom's relationship.

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#73086: Apr 17th 2023 at 12:51:49 PM

Maddie is in the show, per the link I shared last page.

I just now noticed that Omega wasn't at the birthday party, and while he or Gemerl would have comedic potential, they might be a bit too out of place for such a thing. The more limited cast is a bit of a good call. Even including Blaze might have been a bit of a stretch, but it's nice to give her more people to work off of, and her interacting with Rouge was a welcome surprise.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Apr 17th 2023 at 3:03:02 AM

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#73087: Apr 17th 2023 at 1:00:04 PM

Yea, but we don't know what role she's gonna play. The synopsis makes it sound like Wade is gon a be his sidekick.

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#73088: Apr 17th 2023 at 1:00:23 PM

I wonder if will get a Dr Zachary expy as the main villain, a white fur evil scientist.

Another thing I want is Knuckles to wear his Deputy Sheriff outfit from the Sonic The Comic story "The Good, The Bad and The Echidna" with his hat from the Sonic Ova.

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#73089: Apr 17th 2023 at 2:07:20 PM

We technically got one: Starline.

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#73090: Apr 17th 2023 at 2:45:07 PM

I meant in the movie universe, since Doctor Zachary expies exist in Archie with Doctor Finitevus, Sonic Brotherhood with Ix and Idw with Doctor Starline.

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#73091: Apr 17th 2023 at 3:49:04 PM

I'm gonna see how this goes.

Maybe it'll be fun.

Like, have Tom and Maddie even been that bad?

I'm not saying Wade is a great choice, and it's entirely possible it will bomb, but lets save our frothing rage for when that actually happens instead of getting so riled up beforehand.

Not so much give it a chance so much as don't stab it while it's still in the crib.

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#73092: Apr 17th 2023 at 3:56:07 PM

Is being a Dr Zachary expy why Dr Starline is the only other monotreme asides from an echidna?

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#73093: Apr 17th 2023 at 5:49:59 PM

Turns out, Charmy and Cream were planned for the Murder game, but Katie and the crew dropped them due to being too young.
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YA DAMN RIGHT ABOUT THAT PISSING SOMEONE OFF! Katie and co will rue the day they decided to leave Cream and Charmy out of their silly free-to-play game!

Seriously though, I just can't take this whole "Cream and Charmy can't do X cause they're children" when fucking Tails is right there, and always guaranteed to show up in anything. Yeah, he's highly mature and intelligent for his age, but he's still an eight-year-old boy. No establishment in their right mind would allow Tails to participate in anything age restricted no matter his credentials. And this is completely overlooking how Cream herself is very mature for a six-year-old, being naive at worst, and Charmy has a full-time job as a freaking detective. But naw, let's keep those two out of this teen/adult stuff while giving a free pass to the boy just two years older than them. *Rolls eyes*

Though honestly, I'd have been perfectly fine with Cream and Charmy's absence (even if I'd rather Cream make a fucking appearance in the rare chances she gets) if their absences were at least acknowledged. Like, simply have Amy casually say "I wish Cream could be with us, but she didn't like the idea of a murder mystery." And likewise, Vector and/or Espio could've mentioned that they dropped Charmy off with Vanilla and Cream because they knew he was going to spoil the game. Anything is better than being absent for seemingly no reason.

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#73094: Apr 17th 2023 at 7:21:16 PM

Maybe Tails is allowed due to both a meta reason and an In-universe reason:

1. Tails is a core member of the cast, meaning the Grandfather Clause is in full effect here.

2. Tails, compared with Cream and Charmy, is "technically" an adult due to living alone and having what seems to be a stable job, meaning people just roll with it. Cream and Charmy are children who have legal guardians in the case of Vanilla and Vector and Espio. Maybe Don and Nite are taking care of the latter during the trip, I don't know.

Edited by Tomodachi on Apr 17th 2023 at 7:23:59 AM

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#73095: Apr 17th 2023 at 7:37:31 PM

Tails is the exception to all of this, usually.

In the weird plot line in Archie where Amy stole a magic ring to age herself into her modern design, she wondered why Tails got to go on missions when she didn't despite being the same age, and nobody had an answer for that.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#73096: Apr 17th 2023 at 7:38:42 PM

The answer was "Tails has experience in going on adcentures". I don't think that's a good reason, mind you.

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#73097: Apr 17th 2023 at 7:44:18 PM

I was always curious about why Cream and Charmy are excluded from the more serious plot lines, while Tails is still there. I mean, weren't Cream and Charmy in Sonic Heroes, fighting against Metal Sonic (well, they technically didn't defeat Metal Sonic, but they were still there in the battle).

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#73099: Apr 17th 2023 at 8:00:15 PM

[up]Tails is among the "oldest" of the cast. Second only to Sonic himself and Baldy McNosehair. this is because he debuted in Sonic 2.

In comparison, Cream first appeared in Advance 2 and Charmy's first appearance in Heroes (KC being Canon Discontinuity).

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#73100: Apr 17th 2023 at 8:34:15 PM

Turns out, Charmy and Cream were planned for the Murder game, but Katie and the crew dropped them due to being too young.

“We decided they were both too young to dabble in the workings of murder,” Chrzanowski says. “I’m happy with the cast we ended up with, and it was just enough to give each their spotlight without overstaying their welcome or dragging the story on too long.”

I'm going to just assume this means the devs couldn't resist making Cream the murderer, and removed her from the game to get rid of the temptation.


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