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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71926: Mar 16th 2023 at 8:25:46 PM

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Really interesting how they re-retcon away the Forces retcon that Classic Sonic was from another dimension, emphasizing that he's definitely Sonic from the past (which iirc an earlier TailsTube noted), but didn't walk back from the multiverse/dimensions idea just in case they wanted to use it later.

So in short, Classic Sonic's not from another dimension or universe, but that doesn't mean there aren't Sonics from other universes (Ian Flynn's gonna love that). One of the ones they show is even a take on Boom! Sonic with a design more like Game! Sonic, which was a fun nod.

That said, my favorite part was how the video's representation of "hardcore fans" was a Grumpy Jet in a Sonic hat, tho.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 16th 2023 at 8:25:55 AM

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#71927: Mar 16th 2023 at 8:27:34 PM

I guess what I'm trying to get to is what Sonic entries would be considered Smash Melee vs. Brawl levels of difficulty and hardcore catered out of the series?

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#71928: Mar 16th 2023 at 8:32:12 PM

If you mean if there's a metagame for Sonic games, then I couldn't tell you...

That said, my favorite part was how the video's representation of "hardcore fans" was a Grumpy Jet in a Sonic hat, tho.

That got a chuckle out of me I admit.

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#71929: Mar 16th 2023 at 9:26:58 PM

You can't really compare Sonic to Smash Bros. with how different the genres are. Melee wasn't meant by the devs to be a hardcore game, it just happened to have a depth to it that hardcore players mastered and made for a healthy tournament scene. Brawl was still aimed at the same general audience as Melee, it's just that the balance and changes made to gameplay made it less fun for hardcore players, who ended up deciding to mostly stick to playing Melee and killed Brawl's tournament scene. (And in either case, Nintendo didn't give a shit at all about supporting said tournament scene.)

Some Sonic games are harder than others, but they're generally all on the easier side (to just clear the storylines) because they're all primarily aimed at the same audience - little kids. The only particularly harder Sonic games that come to mind are the very first two, but that's almost entirely because they use the traditional live system where dying too much means you're starting the game all over from the beginning again. And even that was just done because it was considered the standard at the time.

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#71930: Mar 17th 2023 at 10:40:30 AM

Back on Tails Tube:

  • Footage of Advance 3 (Chaos Angel Act 3, I think, and it has amazing music) was used when recounting past adventures. Confirming it, and by extension Advance 2 and Battle at least, as canon to that universe. Like I'd thought. It's still weird how Gemerl cameos far less frequently than references to Emerl. Gemerl apparently doesn't even cameo in the Olympic games? Weird. At least we could explain his and Cream's absence in Forces as Emerl taking care of Cream and Vanilla offscreen.
  • The appearance of Jet confirmed something I was thinking of earlier: at the very least the first Riders game is canon. Of course, we already knew that as the Babylonians and Jet were mentioned in Frontiers by Eggman and Sonic, respectively.
  • Also confirming the obvious, Sonic doesn't really live anywhere and just crashes on his little brother's couch.

Hmm. Over the course of the series (especially in the GBA games), we've seen homes for Knuckles, Tails, Amy, Rouge, and Cream. I kind of get the feeling Shadow's similar to Sonic and just crashes wherever. I also like this comic of Rouge crashing on Knuckles' island for a night.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Mar 17th 2023 at 12:44:44 PM

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#71931: Mar 17th 2023 at 8:51:13 PM

It appears one of the composers of Hyper Potions did a very bad thing. They composed "Friends", used in both Manía and the first movie.

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#71933: Mar 18th 2023 at 8:07:33 AM

That game has been a great blessing for the team. grin

Edited by LoneCourier0 on Mar 18th 2023 at 4:07:46 PM

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#71935: Mar 18th 2023 at 12:35:54 PM

[up][up][up][up]Well, shit.

Awards thing: Oooh, neat!

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#71936: Mar 18th 2023 at 1:05:37 PM

What's so wrong about 'Friends' being composed by someone in Hyper Potions?

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#71937: Mar 18th 2023 at 1:51:24 PM

Congrats to Sonic Frontiers for winning another award! Things are really looking good for Sonic the Hedgehog!

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#71938: Mar 18th 2023 at 3:33:31 PM

Cool thing about the award is that it's from Japanese user votes, with the other nominations being that it was going up against God of War Ragnarök and Horizon Forbidden West, so to see Sonic (which historically never been as popular in Japan compared to the West) be a winner in Japanese population is pretty astounding. I don't know how popular the latter two are in Japan and PlayStation sooooo, that's the perspective at least.

Appropriate since Frontiers also won the award at Tokyo Game Show for most impressive game that was pretty hype worthy, which Kishimoto also commented on.

Edited by taotruths on Mar 18th 2023 at 3:34:25 AM

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#71939: Mar 18th 2023 at 3:41:17 PM

[up]I heard that the first three God of War games were incredibly unpopular, but I have no idea if the soft reboot games are better received.

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#71940: Mar 18th 2023 at 3:48:05 PM

Awards and a respectable spread of review scores, And yet you still see a lot of people who never actually engaged with it snarking about how "obviously terrible" Frontiers must be. (To be clear, that's not a knock against anyone who played the game and didn't like it, or even anyone who just saw the demo or other gameplay and decided they didn't like how it looked. I'm purely referring to people who didn't even look at the game and just assume it must suck because its Sonic).

Edited by diddyknux on Mar 18th 2023 at 5:48:36 AM

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#71941: Mar 18th 2023 at 4:24:31 PM

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You mean like the people who didn't give Sonic Frontiers a chance because it's Sonic are probably upset at Sonic Frontiers winning awards and getting recognition?

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#71942: Mar 18th 2023 at 4:26:05 PM

More like seeing snark from people that implies that they didn't even realize that Frontiers has gotten a decent amount of accolades.

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#71943: Mar 18th 2023 at 4:28:23 PM

Re:Hyper Potions: (content warning: abuse)

Kevin's ex-wife Evelyn came forward with how she was groomed by him.

Ian, the other member, gave a statement.

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#71944: Mar 18th 2023 at 5:00:55 PM

Yeeesh.

Good on Ian for not taking his bullshit and letting Kevin know how he feels. Hope they can find an equally good composer for the group.

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#71945: Mar 18th 2023 at 10:49:51 PM

After being burned with the Hellena Taylor scandal and the Kwite allegations being debunked a mere week ago I’m staying neutral on this until the dust settles and more evidence either way comes to light. Not sure if Hyper Potions removing Kevin is a knee-jerk reaction or evidence that the allegations are true.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Mar 18th 2023 at 1:50:55 PM

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#71946: Mar 18th 2023 at 11:07:12 PM

Favorite Sonic character for me to this day is still Blaze. Just an interesting, competent, and all around cool princess character all around. Not many games outside of her debut do her justice of you ask me.

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#71947: Mar 18th 2023 at 11:07:56 PM

Do you ''really'' want her to get more attention when you look how Shadow has been handled?

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Mar 18th 2023 at 2:38:53 PM

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#71948: Mar 18th 2023 at 11:10:28 PM

Blaze admittedly doesn't have most of the characterization complications Shadow did that resulted in Sonic Team overreacting to his character type.

She probably wouldn't have had the same issues.

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#71949: Mar 18th 2023 at 11:13:00 PM

We thought the same thing about Shadow when he died in SA 2 and then Aliens. You can never be too sure about these things.

There is such a thing as being too popular for your own good.

So (cocks Shotgun) you stay right there Blaze and be cool. I'll make sure they never ruin you ever.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Mar 18th 2023 at 2:14:02 PM

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#71950: Mar 18th 2023 at 11:14:21 PM

[up][up][up]Are you just trying to be in a bad mood or something?

Anyway, my favorite is and has always been Tails. Rouge is probably second. Sonic, Vector and Amy round out the top 5 in no particular order.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Mar 18th 2023 at 1:14:35 PM


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